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2nd EDD appeal success rates - Has anyone actually won after initial denial?

So I'm feeling pretty devastated right now. I just got my first appeal denied for my EDD claim. The determination letter basically said I didn't provide sufficient evidence that I was available for work during the period I claimed benefits (Jan-March 2025). I was working part-time while looking for full-time work, but apparently my work search records weren't detailed enough. I'm thinking about filing a second appeal to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB), but honestly, does anyone ever WIN these second appeals? Or am I just wasting my time? The overpayment they want me to repay is $7,800 which I absolutely cannot afford right now. If you've gone through a second-level appeal, I'd really appreciate hearing about your experience. What kind of new evidence did you provide? Did you hire a lawyer? How long did the whole process take? I'm feeling really discouraged and could use some hope right now...

Millie Long

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I won my second appeal last year! Don't give up hope. The CUIAB is actually more thorough than the first-level appeals with the Administrative Law Judges. For my second appeal, I made sure to: 1. Get VERY specific with my work search efforts - exact dates, company names, contact info, method of application 2. Provided screenshots of job applications and confirmation emails 3. Wrote a detailed statement explaining why the first judge misinterpreted my situation The whole process took about 10 weeks from filing the second appeal to getting a favorable decision. I didn't hire a lawyer, but I did have a friend who works in HR help me organize my evidence in a clear way. The key was being super organized and having documentation for EVERYTHING.

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Santiago Diaz

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Thank you so much for sharing this! 10 weeks actually isn't as bad as I was expecting. Did you have to attend another hearing for the second appeal? I found the first hearing really stressful and I was so nervous I feel like I didn't explain myself well.

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KaiEsmeralda

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YES second appeals can be successful but they're looking for either: 1) A procedural error in your first appeal hearing 2) New evidence that wasn't available at the time of your first appeal If you're just re-arguing the same points with the same evidence, your chances aren't great. What specific reason did they give for denying your availability for work? Was it because your part-time schedule limited your availability? Or was it purely about insufficient work search documentation?

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Santiago Diaz

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It was mainly about insufficient work search records. The judge said my records were "vague and lacked specificity" and that I didn't provide enough evidence that I was "actively seeking full-time work while maintaining part-time employment." I did keep a log but I didn't include all the details like contact names and exact websites where I applied. I definitely have more detailed records I could submit now.

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Debra Bai

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i got denied twice lol the whole system is rigged tbh. they just want their money back no matter what. i provided TONS of evidence and they still said no. good luck but dont get ur hopes up

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I'm sorry that happened to you, but everyone's case is different. I've seen plenty of second appeals get approved when people present their case properly. It's not helpful to tell someone their case is hopeless when you don't know their specific circumstances.

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Laura Lopez

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My neighbor won her 2nd appeal but she had to wait forever!!! Like 4 months I think? She said the key was getting an actual person on the phone from EDD who could explain exactly what documents they needed. She spent days trying to call but couldn't get through until she used some service called Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km After talking to an actual agent, she found out she needed to submit specific forms that nobody had told her about. Once she did that and explained clearly why the first judge was wrong, she won!

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Santiago Diaz

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That's good to know! I've been trying to call EDD for days with no luck. I'll check out that service - at this point I'll try anything if it means getting actual guidance on what I need to submit. Thanks for the tip!

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I think it depends on what kind of work you do? I'm in construction and got approved on second appeal. But my friend in accounting got denied twice. Maybe they treat different industries differently?

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KaiEsmeralda

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The industry doesn't typically affect appeal decisions directly - it's more about whether you meet the eligibility criteria for your specific situation. The same laws apply to all industries, but certain industries might have more common issues (like seasonal work or contractor vs. employee status) that affect outcomes.

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I had to go through the 2nd appeal process last summer and it was actually successful! Here's what I learned: - The Board looks at your case completely fresh - they don't just rubber stamp the ALJ's decision - They're much more thorough in reviewing ALL evidence - Timing matters - make sure you file within 30 days of receiving the ALJ's decision - Be SUPER specific about why you think the first decision was wrong The nice thing about the Board appeal is that you usually don't have to attend another hearing unless they decide one is needed. In my case, they just reviewed all the documents and made a decision. Definitely don't give up! With a $7,800 overpayment at stake, it's worth trying.

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Santiago Diaz

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That's really encouraging! I'm definitely going to file within the 30-day window. Did you submit any new evidence with your appeal or just argue that the judge interpreted the existing evidence incorrectly?

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I'm a volunteer at a worker's rights clinic and we see second appeals succeed fairly regularly. Here are some statistics that might help: - About 30% of second appeals result in a favorable outcome for claimants - Cases involving work search requirements (like yours) actually have a higher success rate on second appeal - Most successful appeals include new, more detailed evidence If you're dealing with a large overpayment like $7,800, I'd recommend at least consulting with a legal aid organization. Many offer free consultations for unemployment issues. Legal Aid Foundation of Los Angeles or Bay Area Legal Aid are good resources depending on where you live.

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Santiago Diaz

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Thank you for sharing those stats - 30% is actually higher than I would have guessed! I'm in San Diego, so I'll look for legal aid organizations in my area. Do you know approximately how long the second appeal process usually takes?

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Debra Bai

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the whole thing is a JOKE!! my second appeal took SIX MONTHS and they STILL said no!! meanwhile they were garnishing my wages the whole time!! complete waste of time!!!

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Did you request a waiver of the overpayment while your appeal was pending? You can do that separately from the appeal process, and it stops them from collection activities until a decision is made. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone else is reading this thread and facing a similar situation.

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Millie Long

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To respond to your question from earlier - for my second appeal, I didn't have to attend another hearing. The Board just reviewed all the documents from the first hearing plus the new evidence I submitted. They only schedule new hearings if they feel it's necessary or if you specifically request one. Regarding the work search records, be incredibly detailed! For each employer, include: - Full name of company - Complete address or website URL - Date of application - Position applied for - Name of contact person (if you have it) - Method of application (online, in-person, etc.) - Any follow-up communications Also, make sure to clearly explain how your part-time work schedule still allowed you to be available for full-time work. For example, if your part-time job gave you flexible hours or you were willing to quit for full-time work, make that very clear.

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Santiago Diaz

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This is super helpful, thank you! I'm going to start putting together detailed work search records tonight. Fortunately, I still have most of my job application confirmation emails so I can include those as evidence.

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my cousin works for edd (not in appeals tho) and she says they approve 2nd appeals sometimes but u need to show EXACTLY why the 1st judge was wrong. like specific laws they misapplied or facts they ignored

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KaiEsmeralda

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This is accurate. The CUIAB is looking for clear errors in how the law was applied to your facts, or significant facts that were overlooked. Simply being unhappy with the outcome isn't enough. If you can cite specific sections of the unemployment insurance code that support your position, that can be very persuasive.

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One other thing that really helped my second appeal was submitting a formal written declaration that addressed each point the first judge mentioned in the denial. I basically went through the denial letter point by point and responded to each issue with specific evidence. This made it really easy for the Board to see exactly why I thought the decision was wrong. Don't be intimidated by the process. The forms look scary but they're actually pretty straightforward. And in my experience, the Board was much more thorough and fair than the first-level appeal.

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Santiago Diaz

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That's a great approach! I'll review my denial letter carefully and address each point specifically. Thanks for all the guidance - I'm feeling much more confident about filing my second appeal now.

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