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CosmicCadet

Will CalWORKs make my kids' father pay child support even if he's living with us?

So me and my boyfriend have two kids together (2yo and 8mo) and we all live in the same house. I currently get CalFresh for all of us - him, me, and both kids are on my case. We aren't married but he is the father on both birth certificates. Money has been super tight lately with formula and diapers for the baby, and I was thinking of applying for CalWORKs cash aid, but my friend told me they might go after him for child support even though we live together? That would cause so many problems between us. Does anyone know if they'd make him pay child support if he's already living with us and on my CalFresh case? Or is there a way to apply without that happening? I really need the extra help right now but don't want to cause drama in our relationship.

Chloe Harris

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Yes, they most likely will require child support cooperation unless you qualify for an exception. When you apply for CalWORKs, you're automatically required to cooperate with child support enforcement (it's called the LCSA - Local Child Support Agency). This means you have to provide information about the father and they'll open a child support case even if you're living together. It's one of the requirements for getting Cash Aid unfortunately.

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CosmicCadet

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Seriously?? Even though we're together and he's already listed as the father? That makes no sense. He already helps with bills and stuff, we just need extra help right now.

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Diego Mendoza

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theres a thing called good cause exemption. tell them ur afraid of him or somethin lol. thats wat i did with my ex cause i didnt want no drama and they let me get cash aid without child support stuff. just gotta fill out a form

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Chloe Harris

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Please don't suggest lying about domestic violence to game the system. That's fraud and could cause serious problems. There are legitimate reasons for good cause exemptions, but making false claims isn't the way to go.

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You could try applying as a family unit instead of just for yourself and the kids. If you include him on your CalWORKs application as part of your household (like you did with CalFresh), they would calculate benefits based on all of your income combined. This is different than applying as a single parent household where they'd pursue child support. Worth asking about this option specifically when you apply.

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CosmicCadet

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That's exactly what I was wondering! But I heard CalWORKs is different from CalFresh with how they count households? Like they care more about who's married or not. Does anyone know if boyfriend/girlfriend with kids can be considered one CalWORKs household or not?

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Sean Flanagan

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This is an important question that comes up often. For CalWORKs, if the father of your children lives with you and you include him in your application as part of your assistance unit (AU), then child support enforcement would not be pursued against him. However, this means: 1. His income will count toward the family's total income 2. He would have to meet Welfare to Work requirements unless exempt 3. His resources (like savings, vehicles, etc.) would count toward resource limits If his income is too high, you might not qualify for CalWORKs as a family. But if you apply without including him, then yes, they would pursue child support even if you live together - unless you have an approved good cause exemption.

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CosmicCadet

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Thank you for explaining! This helps a lot. He doesn't make much money (works part time) so I think including him might be our best option. Do you know what kind of welfare to work requirements he'd have to do?

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Sean Flanagan

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For Welfare to Work requirements, all non-exempt adults in the assistance unit typically need to participate in work activities for 30-35 hours per week (depending on family circumstances). These activities can include: - Employment - Job search - Job training programs - Education related to employment - Community service Since he's already working part-time, those hours would count toward his WTW requirement, and he'd just need to make up the difference with other approved activities. There are some exemptions, like if someone is disabled, caring for a young child under 24 months, or has other qualifying circumstances.

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Zara Shah

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dont forget they check if ur really living together. my cousins boyfriend said he lived with her but was actually stayin at his moms half the time and they got in trouble. they do home visits sometimes to check.

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NebulaNomad

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The child support thing with CalWORKs is SO FRUSTRATING!! I was in this EXACT situation last year. Me and my kids' dad lived together but weren't married, and I needed Cash Aid temporarily when he got laid off. I didn't include him on my application (big mistake) and they automatically referred me to child support services! It created this whole MESS where they wanted to collect from him even though we were LITERALLY LIVING TOGETHER and he was already supporting us as much as he could!!! The county workers gave me different information every time I called - some said I could cancel it, others said I couldn't. SUCH a headache.

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CosmicCadet

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Omg that sounds like a nightmare. Were you able to fix it eventually? I definitely don't want to end up in that situation.

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NebulaNomad

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Yeah, I eventually got it fixed but it took FOREVER. I had to go in person multiple times. What finally worked was submitting proof we lived together (lease with both our names, utility bills, etc.) and having him come with me to sign paperwork to be added to my case. They recalculated our benefits based on his income. The amount went down but at least they stopped the child support nonsense. My advice is to be SUPER clear from the beginning about your living situation.

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Luca Ferrari

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I've seen this issue come up a lot when people try calling the county offices. They rarely give clear answers about these situations, and you can waste hours on hold just to get disconnected. After my frustrating experience trying to resolve a similar issue, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a real CalWORKs worker in about 10 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE I'd recommend using something like this to get a definitive answer about your specific situation instead of guessing. The worker I spoke with explained exactly how to apply as a family unit and avoid the child support issue completely.

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CosmicCadet

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Never heard of this but definitely gonna check it out. I've tried calling my county office twice already and gave up after being on hold forever. Thanks for sharing!

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Diego Mendoza

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u should just say ur not together and hes just ur roomate lol. thats what my friend did and she got cash aid for her and her kid and her bf was still living there but didnt have to pay child support.

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Please don't suggest welfare fraud. They do home visits and investigations, and lying on a government application can lead to serious penalties including having to pay back benefits and even criminal charges. It's not worth the risk!

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Nia Wilson

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ok but am i the only one confused why CalWORKs and CalFresh have different rules for households?? like why does one program care if ur married and the other doesn't?? make it make sense california 🙄

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It's because they're funded differently. CalFresh (SNAP) is federal with more standardized household definitions. CalWORKs (TANF) involves cash payments and has more complex rules about who's financially responsible for whom. I agree it's confusing though!

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CosmicCadet

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Thank you all for the advice! I've decided to apply with him included in our household since we're genuinely living together as a family. Going to gather our documents and apply online through BenefitsCal. Hopefully his part-time work plus whatever activities they assign won't be too much while also caring for our kids. I'll update after our interview to let everyone know how it goes!

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Chloe Harris

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That sounds like the right approach. Make sure to bring proof of your shared residence (lease, bills), his income verification (pay stubs), and both children's birth certificates showing him as the father. Good luck with your application!

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Laura Lopez

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Good luck with your application! Just wanted to add that when you go to your interview, be prepared for them to ask detailed questions about your living arrangement and relationship. They might ask about shared expenses, sleeping arrangements, and how you split household responsibilities. It's all pretty invasive but they need to verify you're truly a household unit. Also, if your boyfriend's income fluctuates (since he's part-time), make sure to report any changes right away - they're really strict about income reporting requirements. Hope everything works out for your family!

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Thanks for the heads up about the interview questions! I hadn't thought about how detailed they'd get about our living situation. That's really helpful to know so I can be prepared. The income reporting thing is good to know too - his hours do change sometimes depending on his schedule. I'll make sure to keep track of everything and report changes right away. Really appreciate all the support from everyone here!

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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something similar! I applied for CalWORKs about 6 months ago with my partner included in our household. The process was actually smoother than I expected once I had all the right documents. A few tips: bring multiple forms of proof you live together (we brought our lease, joint bank account statements, and utility bills in both names), and don't be discouraged if the first worker you talk to seems confused about the household rules - I had to explain our situation to three different people before someone really understood. The welfare-to-work requirements weren't as scary as I thought either - since your boyfriend is already working part-time, they'll likely just have him do job search activities or maybe some online training modules to meet the hour requirements. The extra help we got really made a difference for our family, so I hope it works out for you too!

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Evelyn Rivera

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This is really encouraging to hear! I was getting worried about the whole process after reading some of the horror stories, but it sounds like if you come prepared with the right documents it goes much smoother. I'm definitely going to gather all those proof of living together documents you mentioned - we have a lease with both our names and some utility bills, so that should help. Good to know about potentially having to explain the situation multiple times too, I'll be patient with that part. Thanks for sharing your positive experience, it gives me hope that this will work out for our family!

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I'm glad to see so many helpful responses here! Just wanted to add one more thing - when you include your boyfriend in your CalWORKs application, make sure you understand that ALL of his income will count, including any unreported cash work or side gigs. The county will verify his employment and may ask for tax returns or 1099s if he does any independent contractor work. I've seen people get surprised by this during their interview when they thought only his "official" job income would count. Also, if he has any assets like a car that's paid off or savings accounts, those will count toward your resource limits too. It's still probably your best option to avoid the child support issue, but just wanted you to be fully prepared for what "household" means to CalWORKs!

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Diego Mendoza

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That's such an important point about ALL income counting! I didn't even think about side gigs or cash work. My boyfriend does some odd jobs here and there for extra money, so I'll make sure we're completely honest about everything during the application process. Better to be upfront from the start than get caught in inconsistencies later. Thanks for mentioning the asset limits too - we'll need to look at what we have and make sure we qualify. This community has been so helpful in preparing me for what to expect!

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Just wanted to add something that might help - when you do your CalWORKs interview, bring a copy of your current CalFresh case information showing your boyfriend is already included as part of your household there. This can help demonstrate to the worker that you've been living together as a family unit and might make the process smoother. I've heard some people say the workers are more receptive when they can see you're already established as a household in another program. Also, if you're breastfeeding your 8-month-old, make sure to mention that during your interview - there are sometimes exemptions or accommodations for nursing mothers that could affect work requirements. Wishing you the best with your application!

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Dylan Wright

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That's brilliant advice about bringing the CalFresh case info! I never would have thought of that but it makes total sense - it shows we're already recognized as a household by the system. And yes, I am still breastfeeding my 8-month-old, so I'll definitely bring that up during the interview. I'm keeping a list of all these tips from everyone so I don't forget anything. This thread has been incredibly helpful - I feel so much more prepared now than when I first posted. Thank you for taking the time to share that insight!

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Jake Sinclair

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One more thing that might be helpful - if you're worried about navigating all the paperwork and requirements, consider asking if your county has a CalWORKs orientation or informational meeting you can attend before applying. Some counties offer these sessions where they explain the different application options, household definitions, and work requirements in detail. It's much easier to ask questions in person than trying to figure everything out on your own. Also, bring your boyfriend with you to the actual application interview if possible - having him there to answer questions directly about his income, work schedule, and commitment to the household can really help establish that you're applying as a genuine family unit. The caseworkers like to see both parents engaged in the process when you're applying together.

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Elijah Knight

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That's really smart advice about the orientation sessions! I didn't even know counties offered those. I'll definitely call and ask about that - it would be so helpful to understand everything before diving into the application. And you're absolutely right about bringing my boyfriend to the interview. I was planning to do it alone but having him there to speak for himself about his work and our situation makes way more sense. It shows we're both committed to this as a family decision, not just me trying to get benefits. Thanks for thinking of these practical details that I wouldn't have considered!

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I went through this exact situation about a year ago! The key thing to understand is that CalWORKs has what they call "assistance unit" rules that are different from CalFresh household rules. If you include your boyfriend as part of your CalWORKs assistance unit (since he's the father of your children and you live together), they won't pursue child support against him - but his income and resources will count toward your eligibility. The tricky part is that if his income is too high, you might not qualify for cash aid at all. But if you apply without including him, they'll automatically start child support enforcement even though you live together. I'd recommend calling your county's CalWORKs office and specifically asking to speak with someone about "assistance unit composition for unmarried parents living together." Get the information straight from them before you apply so you know exactly what your options are and can make the best decision for your family's situation.

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Amina Toure

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This is such helpful clarification about assistance unit rules vs household rules! I'm definitely going to call and ask specifically about "assistance unit composition for unmarried parents living together" like you suggested. That's probably the exact phrase I need to use to get a clear answer instead of getting confused responses from different workers. It makes sense that his income might make us ineligible for cash aid altogether, but at least then I'd know for sure rather than wondering. I really appreciate you sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear from someone who actually went through this situation successfully.

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Thais Soares

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who works with families navigating these systems - you're getting great advice here! One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand the "deprivation" requirements for CalWORKs. Since you're applying as a two-parent household, you'll need to show that your family meets the eligibility criteria for needy families with both parents present (usually this means combined income below certain limits and one parent unemployed/underemployed). Also, keep in mind that including your boyfriend means you'll both be subject to the 60-month lifetime limit for CalWORKs benefits, so it's important to have a plan for becoming self-sufficient. The welfare-to-work program is actually designed to help with this through job training and education opportunities. Don't let people scare you about the work requirements - most counties are pretty reasonable about working with families' schedules, especially when you have young children. Good luck with your application!

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Thank you so much for explaining the deprivation requirements! I hadn't heard that term before but it makes sense that there are specific eligibility criteria for two-parent households. I'll definitely ask about this when I call the county office. The 60-month lifetime limit is something I need to keep in mind too - we're hoping this would just be temporary help while we get more stable financially. It's reassuring to hear that most counties are reasonable about work requirements with young kids. I've been worried about juggling everything but it sounds like they understand families have real constraints. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional perspective - it helps to hear from someone who works with families in these situations regularly!

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I'm really glad you decided to include your boyfriend in the application - that definitely seems like the smartest approach to avoid the child support complications! Just wanted to add that when you're gathering those documents everyone mentioned, don't forget to get a letter from your boyfriend's employer showing his work schedule and hourly wage. Sometimes the pay stubs alone aren't enough and having an official letter can speed up the process. Also, since you mentioned money is tight with formula costs, make sure to ask about the special WIC program during your CalWORKs interview - you might qualify for additional help with formula and baby food that could really stretch your budget. The caseworkers often don't mention WIC automatically but it can be a huge help for families with young kids. Fingers crossed everything goes smoothly for you!

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Amara Okafor

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That's such a good point about getting an official letter from his employer! I would have just brought pay stubs and probably run into delays. And I had no idea about WIC potentially being available through CalWORKs - the formula costs have been killing our budget so that could be a huge help. I'll definitely ask about both of these things during the interview. It's amazing how many little details there are that can make or break the process. Thanks for thinking of the practical stuff that could actually save us time and money!

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Kaylee Cook

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add something that might help with your decision - if you're still unsure about including your boyfriend in the CalWORKs application, you could always start by just calling the county office to do a "pre-screening" or eligibility estimate. Many counties will do this over the phone where they'll ask about your household composition and income to give you a rough idea of whether you'd qualify for benefits before you actually submit an application. This way you can find out if his part-time income would make you ineligible anyway, which would help you decide whether it's worth going through the full application process. It might save you time and give you peace of mind about the best approach for your family's situation.

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That's such a smart idea about doing a pre-screening call first! I didn't even know that was an option. It would definitely help to know upfront if his income would disqualify us anyway before going through all the paperwork and stress of a full application. Even if they can just give me a ballpark idea of the income limits for a family of four, that would help me make a more informed decision. I'm going to call tomorrow and ask about this - thanks for the tip!

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Mikayla Brown

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I just want to say how helpful this entire thread has been! I'm not in the exact same situation but I've been considering applying for CalWORKs as a single mom and seeing all the different scenarios and advice here has been really eye-opening. The distinction between assistance units and households is something I never understood before, and all the tips about documentation and what to expect during interviews are invaluable. It's so great to see a community where people actually help each other navigate these complicated systems instead of judging. @CosmicCadet I hope your application goes smoothly - you seem really prepared now with all this advice! And thank you to everyone who shared their experiences, both good and bad. It really helps to know what to expect going into this process.

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Aidan Hudson

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I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! It's been really eye-opening for me as well to see how many different situations families can be in with these programs. When I first posted, I had no idea about assistance units vs households or any of these details. This community really is amazing - everyone has been so generous with sharing their real experiences instead of just guessing or judging. It makes such a difference to hear from people who actually went through the process. I hope your application goes well too when you decide to apply! Feel free to ask questions if you run into anything confusing - I'll definitely pay it forward and share what I learn from my experience.

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Joy Olmedo

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I'm going through a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I just wanted to add that when you include your boyfriend in your CalWORKs application, make sure you both understand that you'll likely need to attend appointments together throughout the process - not just the initial interview. My caseworker required both me and my partner to come in for the eligibility review and when we had to recertify our benefits. It can be a hassle with work schedules but they want to verify that you're genuinely functioning as a household unit. Also, keep really good records of everything - dates you called, who you spoke with, what they told you. The system can be inconsistent and having documentation of conversations has saved me multiple times when workers gave me conflicting information. Best of luck with your application!

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Sophie Duck

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Thank you for mentioning the ongoing appointments requirement! I hadn't thought about needing to coordinate both our schedules for multiple meetings throughout the process, not just the initial application. That's definitely something we'll need to plan for, especially with his part-time work schedule. The tip about keeping detailed records is really smart too - I've already seen in this thread how different workers can give conflicting information, so having everything documented will probably save us headaches later. I'm going to start a folder with all our paperwork and notes from phone calls. Really appreciate you sharing what to expect for the long-term process, not just the application itself!

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