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Natalie Chen

CalFresh worker questioned me about using EBT in different city - is this legal?

Just had the weirdest experience with my CalFresh worker. I got called in for an 'appointment' that I never even requested. When I showed up, the worker started questioning me about why I was using my EBT card in a different city than where I live! She pulled up a list of transactions and was asking me to explain why I shopped at stores in [city about 30 miles away]. Um, excuse me? Since when do they track WHERE we shop? Is this even legal? I work in that city and sometimes shop there on my lunch break or after work. Do I need to only use my benefits in my home zip code now? This felt incredibly invasive and I'm genuinely upset about being interrogated like I'm doing something wrong. Has anyone else experienced this kind of monitoring?

This happens ALL THE TIME. The system flags "unusual" purchase patterns and they investigate for trafficking or misuse. It's completely messed up but YES they track where you use your card. I've been questioned 3 times in the past year because I shop near my mom's house when I visit her every weekend. They're basically treating us all like criminals.

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That's seriously disturbing!! No one told me they would be tracking my every purchase location. So what happened with your case? Did they try to cut your benefits or anything?

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I work for a community org that helps people with benefits, and I can clarify this. CalFresh workers do routinely review EBT transaction data when looking for potential fraud patterns, but you have every right to use your card anywhere in California (or even other states). There's no requirement to shop only in your home city. However, if there's a sudden change in your shopping pattern or you're exclusively shopping far from home, they might flag it for review. It doesn't mean you've done anything wrong! Just explain your work situation like you did here.

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Thank you for explaining this! No one ever mentioned this in the application process. I just wish they had asked me about it normally instead of making me feel like I was under investigation.

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my worker never said ANYTHING about where i can shop lol... i use mine all over the place because i drive for work. nobody has ever called me in for an "appointment" about it.

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same!!! been on calfresh 3 years and they never questioned me even tho i literally shop in 4 different counties depending on where im at that week

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Looking at your situation objectively, there's nothing wrong with using your EBT card in a different city, but certain patterns can trigger fraud reviews. The worker should have explained this instead of making you feel uncomfortable. What likely happened is that the system flagged your account for one of these reasons: 1. Sudden change in transaction locations 2. 100% of transactions outside your residential area 3. Multiple large transactions in a single day in different locations Standard procedure is to verify these transactions with you. Simply explaining your work situation should resolve this. Document the conversation date and who you spoke with, just in case.

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Thanks for breaking it down. I definitely don't do any of those things - I shop maybe once a week in that city and the rest near home. I'm going to call my worker tomorrow and ask them to note in my file about my work location to prevent future "appointments.

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I've never heard of this service before! The county office phone system is TERRIBLE so I'll check this out. Thanks for sharing!

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This isn't right. While they do track transaction data for fraud prevention, they shouldn't be treating you like you're guilty of something for simply shopping near work. I recommend: 1. File a formal complaint with your county office 2. Ask for a written explanation of their EBT monitoring policies 3. Request that they document your work location in your case file I had a similar issue last year and after I complained, my worker actually apologized. There's nothing in the CalFresh regulations saying you can only shop in your home zip code.

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Thanks for the great advice! I will definitely ask for their policies in writing. I actually found nothing about shopping location restrictions when I looked through my approval paperwork last night.

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omg this is ridiculous! what if someone doesn't have a car and takes the bus to a better grocery store in another area? or shops where prices are better? are we supposed to ONLY shop at the nearest store even if it's more expensive??? this system is designed to keep us poor i swear

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RIGHT?! And some neighborhoods don't even HAVE grocery stores with fresh food. But heaven forbid we travel to find better options. The whole system treats us like we're trying to scam them when we're just trying to survive and make smart choices with limited benefits.

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A family member works in the fraud department at CDSS and here's what I know: they absolutely track purchase patterns, but the intent is to catch people selling benefits or cards (like consistent withdrawals of exact amounts, always at the same ATM, etc). Shopping in a neighboring city for normal groceries is NOT fraud and not even close to what they're looking for. Your worker was being overzealous and inappropriate.

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This is really helpful context, thank you! I do wonder if my worker is new or something because this seemed like such a strange thing to call me in for. My purchases are totally normal grocery store trips.

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i think its super weird they can see every place we shop tho... feels like being stalked by the government lol

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It's total surveillance state stuff! And only for poor people. Nobody's tracking where people with credit cards shop and questioning them about it. But if you need food assistance? Suddenly every purchase is the government's business. 🙄

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This is so frustrating and honestly feels like harassment! I've been on CalFresh for 2 years and had no idea they were tracking where I shop. Like others have said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using your EBT card in a different city - especially when you work there! I think the worker was way out of line calling you in for an "appointment" without explaining what it was about, then making you feel like you were doing something wrong. You shouldn't have to justify normal grocery shopping patterns. Definitely document everything from this interaction and consider filing a complaint. Workers need to understand the difference between actual fraud (like selling benefits) and normal life circumstances like working in a different city. Hope you get this resolved quickly!

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