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Natalie Chen

CalFresh worker questioned me about using EBT in different city - is this legal?

Just had the weirdest experience with my CalFresh worker. I got called in for an 'appointment' that I never even requested. When I showed up, the worker started questioning me about why I was using my EBT card in a different city than where I live! She pulled up a list of transactions and was asking me to explain why I shopped at stores in [city about 30 miles away]. Um, excuse me? Since when do they track WHERE we shop? Is this even legal? I work in that city and sometimes shop there on my lunch break or after work. Do I need to only use my benefits in my home zip code now? This felt incredibly invasive and I'm genuinely upset about being interrogated like I'm doing something wrong. Has anyone else experienced this kind of monitoring?

This happens ALL THE TIME. The system flags "unusual" purchase patterns and they investigate for trafficking or misuse. It's completely messed up but YES they track where you use your card. I've been questioned 3 times in the past year because I shop near my mom's house when I visit her every weekend. They're basically treating us all like criminals.

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Natalie Chen

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That's seriously disturbing!! No one told me they would be tracking my every purchase location. So what happened with your case? Did they try to cut your benefits or anything?

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I work for a community org that helps people with benefits, and I can clarify this. CalFresh workers do routinely review EBT transaction data when looking for potential fraud patterns, but you have every right to use your card anywhere in California (or even other states). There's no requirement to shop only in your home city. However, if there's a sudden change in your shopping pattern or you're exclusively shopping far from home, they might flag it for review. It doesn't mean you've done anything wrong! Just explain your work situation like you did here.

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Natalie Chen

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Thank you for explaining this! No one ever mentioned this in the application process. I just wish they had asked me about it normally instead of making me feel like I was under investigation.

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Nick Kravitz

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my worker never said ANYTHING about where i can shop lol... i use mine all over the place because i drive for work. nobody has ever called me in for an "appointment" about it.

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Hannah White

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same!!! been on calfresh 3 years and they never questioned me even tho i literally shop in 4 different counties depending on where im at that week

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Michael Green

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Looking at your situation objectively, there's nothing wrong with using your EBT card in a different city, but certain patterns can trigger fraud reviews. The worker should have explained this instead of making you feel uncomfortable. What likely happened is that the system flagged your account for one of these reasons: 1. Sudden change in transaction locations 2. 100% of transactions outside your residential area 3. Multiple large transactions in a single day in different locations Standard procedure is to verify these transactions with you. Simply explaining your work situation should resolve this. Document the conversation date and who you spoke with, just in case.

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Natalie Chen

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Thanks for breaking it down. I definitely don't do any of those things - I shop maybe once a week in that city and the rest near home. I'm going to call my worker tomorrow and ask them to note in my file about my work location to prevent future "appointments.

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Mateo Silva

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Natalie Chen

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I've never heard of this service before! The county office phone system is TERRIBLE so I'll check this out. Thanks for sharing!

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This isn't right. While they do track transaction data for fraud prevention, they shouldn't be treating you like you're guilty of something for simply shopping near work. I recommend: 1. File a formal complaint with your county office 2. Ask for a written explanation of their EBT monitoring policies 3. Request that they document your work location in your case file I had a similar issue last year and after I complained, my worker actually apologized. There's nothing in the CalFresh regulations saying you can only shop in your home zip code.

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Natalie Chen

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Thanks for the great advice! I will definitely ask for their policies in writing. I actually found nothing about shopping location restrictions when I looked through my approval paperwork last night.

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Hannah White

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omg this is ridiculous! what if someone doesn't have a car and takes the bus to a better grocery store in another area? or shops where prices are better? are we supposed to ONLY shop at the nearest store even if it's more expensive??? this system is designed to keep us poor i swear

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RIGHT?! And some neighborhoods don't even HAVE grocery stores with fresh food. But heaven forbid we travel to find better options. The whole system treats us like we're trying to scam them when we're just trying to survive and make smart choices with limited benefits.

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Cameron Black

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A family member works in the fraud department at CDSS and here's what I know: they absolutely track purchase patterns, but the intent is to catch people selling benefits or cards (like consistent withdrawals of exact amounts, always at the same ATM, etc). Shopping in a neighboring city for normal groceries is NOT fraud and not even close to what they're looking for. Your worker was being overzealous and inappropriate.

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Natalie Chen

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This is really helpful context, thank you! I do wonder if my worker is new or something because this seemed like such a strange thing to call me in for. My purchases are totally normal grocery store trips.

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Nick Kravitz

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i think its super weird they can see every place we shop tho... feels like being stalked by the government lol

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It's total surveillance state stuff! And only for poor people. Nobody's tracking where people with credit cards shop and questioning them about it. But if you need food assistance? Suddenly every purchase is the government's business. 🙄

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Aisha Rahman

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This is so frustrating and honestly feels like harassment! I've been on CalFresh for 2 years and had no idea they were tracking where I shop. Like others have said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using your EBT card in a different city - especially when you work there! I think the worker was way out of line calling you in for an "appointment" without explaining what it was about, then making you feel like you were doing something wrong. You shouldn't have to justify normal grocery shopping patterns. Definitely document everything from this interaction and consider filing a complaint. Workers need to understand the difference between actual fraud (like selling benefits) and normal life circumstances like working in a different city. Hope you get this resolved quickly!

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James Maki

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Totally agree with everything you said! The whole experience left me feeling so violated and confused. I've been thinking about it all day and I'm definitely going to file a complaint tomorrow. It's one thing to have fraud prevention measures, but treating people like criminals for basic life activities is completely unacceptable. Thanks for the support - it really helps to know I'm not overreacting to this situation!

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StarStrider

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This is exactly why we need better training for CalFresh workers! What happened to you is completely unacceptable. I've been a benefits advocate for over 5 years and I see this kind of inappropriate questioning way too often. Workers get so focused on "catching fraud" that they forget they're dealing with real people just trying to feed their families. You have every right to shop wherever is convenient for you - work, family visits, better prices, whatever. The fact that she made you feel like a criminal for normal grocery shopping is really concerning. I'd strongly recommend asking to speak with a supervisor about this worker's conduct. They need additional training on what actually constitutes suspicious activity versus normal life patterns. Document everything - date, time, worker's name, exactly what was said. This kind of overreach needs to be reported so it doesn't happen to others. You did nothing wrong!

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Thank you so much for this perspective! As someone new to CalFresh, I had no idea this kind of inappropriate questioning was a common problem. It's really validating to hear from an advocate that my experience was not normal or acceptable. I'm definitely going to document everything and speak with a supervisor - you're right that this worker needs better training. It's scary to think how many other people might be getting intimidated by this kind of treatment and just accepting it because they don't know their rights. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what proper fraud investigation should look like versus what I experienced.

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Andre Laurent

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This is absolutely outrageous! I can't believe they're tracking our every purchase location like we're criminals. You have every right to shop wherever you want - for work, better prices, visiting family, whatever! The fact that they called you in for an "appointment" without explaining why and then interrogated you about perfectly normal shopping patterns is completely inappropriate. I've been on CalFresh for about 6 months and nobody ever told me they were monitoring WHERE I shop. This feels like such an invasion of privacy. Like, are we supposed to carry around a map of approved shopping locations now? You should definitely file a complaint about this worker's conduct. Making you feel guilty for shopping near your workplace is ridiculous and probably violates their own policies. I'm so sorry you had to go through this - it sounds really stressful and humiliating. Thanks for sharing this because now I know what to expect if they ever try to pull this with me!

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I'm brand new to this community and CalFresh in general, and reading about everyone's experiences is honestly shocking! I had no idea they tracked purchase locations at all - this was never mentioned during my application process. The fact that you can get called in for an "appointment" just for shopping near your work is terrifying. What really gets me is how they're treating people like criminals for basic life activities. Like you said, what if someone wants to shop where prices are better or where there's actually fresh produce available? Are we really expected to limit ourselves to whatever stores happen to be closest to our home address? This whole thread is making me paranoid about where I've been using my card! I've shopped in probably 3 different cities already just because I'm still figuring out which stores have the best deals. Now I'm worried I'm going to get flagged for "suspicious activity" when I'm literally just trying to stretch my benefits as far as possible. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's awful that you had to go through that, but it's really helpful for newcomers like me to know what we might face. Definitely going to document everything if anything like this ever happens to me!

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Owen Jenkins

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This whole situation is absolutely infuriating! I'm relatively new to CalFresh and had no idea they were monitoring our shopping locations like this. The fact that your worker called you in for a mysterious "appointment" and then made you feel like a criminal for shopping near your workplace is completely unacceptable. What really bothers me is that nobody explains these "rules" upfront - like, where in the application process do they tell you that shopping in a different city might trigger an investigation? It feels like they're setting people up to feel guilty for totally normal behavior. I drive about 45 minutes to visit my elderly parents every few weeks and always do grocery shopping there because the stores are better and cheaper. Now I'm paranoid that I'm going to get flagged for this! It's ridiculous that we have to worry about where we buy food when we're just trying to make our benefits stretch as far as possible. You definitely did nothing wrong, and I hope you file a complaint about this worker's inappropriate conduct. Thanks for sharing this experience - it's eye-opening for those of us who are newer to the system!

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Chloe Delgado

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Exactly! I'm also pretty new to this whole system and reading through everyone's experiences has been such an eye-opener. It's crazy that they don't explain ANY of this tracking stuff during the application process - like you said, where are we supposed to learn about these unwritten "rules"? Your situation with visiting your parents sounds totally normal and reasonable - of course you'd shop where it's more convenient and affordable! The fact that we even have to worry about this kind of stuff is just wrong. It's like they want us to feel constantly anxious about perfectly normal activities. I've been using my card in probably 4-5 different areas depending on where I am for work or errands, and now I'm wondering if I should expect a surprise "appointment" too. This thread is making me realize I need to start documenting everything just in case. Thanks for sharing your perspective - it really helps to know other newcomers are feeling the same way about how poorly this whole system is explained to us!

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Sophia Nguyen

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I'm new to CalFresh and this is absolutely terrifying to read! Nobody mentioned ANYTHING about location tracking during my application process. I've been shopping at different stores depending on where I can find the best deals and freshest produce - isn't that what we're supposed to do with limited benefits? The fact that they can just call you in for a mystery "appointment" and then make you feel like a criminal for normal grocery shopping is completely messed up. You work in that city - of course you'd shop there! This feels like such an invasion of privacy and really discriminatory treatment. I'm definitely going to start documenting where and when I shop just in case they try to pull this with me. Thanks for sharing this experience - it's horrible that you went through it but really important for newcomers like me to know what we might face. You absolutely did nothing wrong and I hope filing a complaint gets this worker some proper training on what actual fraud looks like!

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I'm also brand new to CalFresh and this whole thread has me shook! Like you, I had absolutely no idea they were tracking where we shop - this was never mentioned anywhere in my application materials or orientation. I've been using my card all over the place because I'm still learning which stores have the best prices and selection for my budget. What's really scary is how they can just ambush you with these "appointments" without any explanation. The fact that @Natalie Chen had to sit there and justify normal grocery shopping near her workplace is absolutely ridiculous. It s'like they assume we re'all trying to commit fraud instead of just living our normal lives. I m'definitely going to start keeping records of my shopping trips now, which is so depressing that we even have to think about this. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it s'awful that this happens but at least we newcomers can be somewhat prepared. Really hoping things get better for you @Natalie Chen after you file that complaint!

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Dylan Cooper

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Wow, I'm completely new to CalFresh and this is honestly shocking to read! I had no idea they were tracking our shopping locations - this was never mentioned during my application process at all. The fact that you got called in for a surprise "appointment" and then interrogated about shopping near your workplace is absolutely ridiculous. I've been using my EBT card in different cities depending on where I can find better deals or when I'm visiting friends/family, and now I'm terrified I'm going to get flagged for "suspicious activity" when I'm literally just trying to make my benefits stretch as far as possible. It's so messed up that they treat us like criminals for normal activities that anyone with a regular credit card would do without question. You definitely did nothing wrong - shopping near where you work makes total sense! Thanks for sharing this experience even though it was awful for you. It's really eye-opening for newcomers like me to understand what we might face. I hope you get this resolved and that worker gets better training on what actual fraud looks like versus just normal life!

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Freya Thomsen

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I'm also completely new to CalFresh and reading this whole thread has been such a wake-up call! Like you, absolutely nobody told me during the application process that they track where we shop. I've been going to different stores based on sales and where I can get the most for my benefits, and now I'm worried I might get one of these mysterious "appointments" too. What really bothers me is how they made @Natalie Chen feel like she was doing something wrong for shopping near her work - that s'literally the most normal thing in the world! If anything, it shows she s'being responsible by combining errands with her work commute. The fact that we even have to worry about this kind of surveillance and questioning is just wrong. People with regular income don t'get interrogated about where they buy groceries, but apparently needing food assistance means giving up basic privacy rights? Thanks for sharing your experience @Natalie Chen - it sucks that you went through this but it s really'important for us newcomers to know what we might face. Hopefully your complaint will help prevent other people from getting this kind of inappropriate treatment!

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I'm brand new to CalFresh and this whole situation is absolutely mind-blowing to me! Nobody - and I mean NOBODY - mentioned during my application process that they would be tracking where I shop. This feels like such a huge oversight in how they onboard people into the program. What happened to you is completely unacceptable. You work in that city, so of course you'd shop there! The fact that they called you in for a mystery "appointment" and then made you feel like you were under investigation for totally normal behavior is infuriating. I've been shopping at different stores across multiple cities trying to find the best deals and freshest produce to make my benefits last longer. Now I'm genuinely scared I'm going to get one of these intimidating calls too. It's so wrong that we have to live in fear of being questioned for basic grocery shopping decisions that anyone else would make without a second thought. Thanks for sharing this experience - it's awful that you had to go through it, but it's really important for newcomers like me to understand what we might face. You definitely did nothing wrong, and I hope filing a complaint gets this worker the training they clearly need. This kind of treatment is exactly why people are afraid to ask for help when they need it.

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Nia Jackson

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I'm also completely new to both CalFresh and this community, and honestly, reading through everyone's experiences has been both eye-opening and terrifying! Like you said, there was absolutely ZERO mention of location tracking during my application - I feel like they deliberately leave out these important details. What really gets me is how @Natalie Chen was treated like she was doing something suspicious when shopping near work is literally the most logical thing ever! I mean, who doesn t'run errands near their workplace? The fact that they can just ambush people with these mystery "appointments and" then interrogate them about perfectly normal life activities is seriously messed up. I ve'been using my card at probably 6-7 different stores across 3 cities in my first month alone, just trying to figure out where I can get the best value for my limited benefits. Now I m'paranoid that I m'going to get flagged as suspicious "for" literally trying to be a smart shopper! It s'so discriminatory that people needing food assistance have to worry about this kind of surveillance while people with regular income can shop wherever they want without question. Thanks for sharing @Natalie Chen - your experience sucks but it s crucial'info for us newcomers. Definitely going to start documenting everything just in case!

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Dyllan Nantx

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I'm completely new to CalFresh and this community, and honestly, I'm shocked by what you went through! Like so many others have said, absolutely NOBODY mentioned location tracking during my application process - I had no idea this was even a thing they monitored. What your worker did sounds totally inappropriate and honestly kind of abusive. You work in that city - of course you'd shop there during lunch or after work! That's literally the most normal, logical thing in the world. The fact that they called you in for some mystery "appointment" and then made you feel like a criminal for basic grocery shopping is completely unacceptable. I've been using my card at different stores trying to find the best deals and freshest food to stretch my benefits, and now I'm genuinely worried I might get ambushed with one of these interrogations too. It's so messed up that we have to live in fear of being questioned for normal activities that anyone with a regular income does without thinking twice. You absolutely did nothing wrong, and I really hope you follow through with filing that complaint. This worker clearly needs better training on what actual fraud looks like versus just normal life patterns. Thanks for sharing your experience - it sucks that you had to go through this, but it's really valuable for newcomers like me to understand what we might face in this system.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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I'm also brand new to CalFresh and this whole thread has me really concerned! Like everyone else, I had absolutely no clue they were tracking where we shop - this was never mentioned anywhere in my application materials or during any of the orientation stuff. What happened to you @Natalie Chen is completely wrong and honestly sounds like harassment. Shopping near your workplace is the most normal thing ever - I can t'believe they made you feel like you were doing something suspicious! The fact that they can just call you in for these mystery appointments "without" explaining what they re'about is really scary. I ve'been shopping at different stores across multiple areas trying to find the best prices and selection to make my benefits last longer, and now I m'terrified I might get one of these intimidating calls too. It s'so unfair that we have to worry about being questioned for basic grocery shopping decisions that anyone else would make without a second thought. Thanks for sharing your experience - it s'awful that you went through this, but it s'really important for newcomers like me to know what we might face. You definitely didn t'do anything wrong, and I hope filing a complaint helps prevent this from happening to other people. This worker clearly needs better training on what actual fraud looks like!

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Madison Tipne

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I'm brand new to CalFresh and this community, and reading your experience has me absolutely floored! Nobody mentioned ANYTHING about location tracking during my application process - I feel like this is such crucial information that they're deliberately withholding from applicants. What your worker put you through sounds completely inappropriate and honestly traumatic. Shopping near your workplace is literally the most normal, practical thing anyone would do! The fact that they ambushed you with this mystery "appointment" and then interrogated you like you were committing a crime is absolutely unacceptable. I've been using my EBT card at various stores across different cities just trying to find the best deals and freshest produce to make my limited benefits stretch as far as possible. Now I'm genuinely terrified that I might get one of these intimidating calls for doing exactly what any smart shopper would do! It's so discriminatory that people needing food assistance have to worry about this kind of surveillance and harassment while people with regular income can shop wherever they want without question. This whole system seems designed to make us feel guilty and ashamed for needing help. You absolutely did nothing wrong, and I really hope you follow through with filing that complaint against this worker. They clearly need serious training on what actual fraud looks like versus normal life activities. Thanks for sharing this - it's awful you went through it, but it's really valuable for newcomers like me to understand what we might face. Stay strong and don't let them intimidate you!

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