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Sean O'Connor

UCC 9 301 proper filing location causing equipment lien complications

Running into a mess with UCC 9 301 requirements and need some guidance. We're a regional equipment finance company and just discovered one of our major commercial borrowers (trucking operation) has been restructuring without telling us. They incorporated in Delaware last year but their main operations and equipment are still here in Texas. We filed our original UCC-1 in Texas back in 2022 since that's where everything was located at the time. Now I'm second-guessing whether we should have filed in Delaware once they reincorporated. The borrower is behind on payments and we're looking at potential repossession, but I'm worried our lien position might be compromised if we filed in the wrong state under UCC 9 301. The equipment (semi-trucks and trailers) moves between Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana regularly for their business operations. Does the Delaware incorporation trump the Texas location where the equipment is actually based? We're talking about a $2.8 million secured position here and can't afford to mess this up. Has anyone dealt with similar UCC 9 301 situations where the debtor's legal domicile changed after the original filing?

Zara Ahmed

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UCC 9 301 can be tricky but you might be okay. Since they incorporated in Delaware AFTER your 2022 filing, your Texas filing should still be valid for the original loan. The key question is whether you filed any UCC-3 amendments after the Delaware incorporation. If you did any amendments after they reincorporated, those might need to be in Delaware to be properly perfected.

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Luca Conti

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We did file a UCC-3 amendment in March 2024 to add some additional equipment to the collateral schedule. That was about 6 months after they incorporated in Delaware. Does that mean the amendment might be invalid?

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Zara Ahmed

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That could be problematic. UCC 9 301 generally requires filings to be made in the state where the debtor is 'located' which for corporations means their state of incorporation. If they incorporated in Delaware in late 2023 and you filed the amendment in Texas in 2024, that amendment might not be properly perfected.

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Nia Johnson

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I had a similar UCC 9 301 headache last year with a borrower who moved their incorporation from Nevada to Wyoming. The general rule is that you have four months after a debtor changes location to refile in the new jurisdiction or your perfection lapses. Since your original 2022 filing was valid when made, it should continue to be effective until you need to file a continuation or make amendments.

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Luca Conti

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Four months? We definitely missed that window if they incorporated in Delaware in 2023. So our March 2024 amendment in Texas would be ineffective?

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Nia Johnson

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The four month rule applies to maintaining continuous perfection when a debtor changes location. Your original filing doesn't become invalid, but any new filings or amendments after the grace period need to be in the new jurisdiction. You should definitely get a Delaware UCC-1 filed ASAP to cover the amended collateral.

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CyberNinja

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Actually I think there's some confusion here about UCC 9 301. The four month rule is for when the collateral moves, not when the debtor reincorporates. For corporate debtors, it's about where they're legally organized, not where their assets are located.

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Mateo Lopez

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original UCC-1, the amendment, and their charter documents and it will flag any inconsistencies with debtor names and filing locations. Saved me from a similar disaster when a borrower changed their legal structure without notice. The tool instantly cross-checks everything and would have caught the Delaware incorporation issue against your Texas filings.

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Luca Conti

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That sounds useful. How does it work with UCC 9 301 location requirements? Does it actually check filing jurisdictions or just document consistency?

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Mateo Lopez

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It checks both. You upload the corporate charter and your UCC filings and it will flag if there's a mismatch between the debtor's state of organization and where you filed. Really straightforward - just drag and drop the PDFs and it analyzes everything automatically.

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Wait, are we sure about the timing here? If they incorporated in Delaware in late 2023 but you're just finding out now, you need to verify exactly when that happened. UCC 9 301 gives you some protection if you filed in good faith in the location where the debtor was actually organized at the time.

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Luca Conti

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Good point. I need to pull their Delaware filing date. We definitely didn't get notice of the reincorporation which seems like it should violate their loan covenants.

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Sean O'Connor

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Definitely check your loan documents for change of domicile provisions. Most commercial loans require borrower notification for exactly this reason.

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Even if they violated loan covenants, that doesn't fix your UCC 9 301 perfection issue. You still need to address the Delaware filing requirement for any amendments made after their reincorporation.

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Ethan Davis

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This UCC 9 301 stuff gives me nightmares. I'm dealing with something similar where our borrower moved from LLC to corporation and I have no idea if our filings are still good. The rules seem to change depending on entity type and I can never keep it straight.

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Zara Ahmed

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LLC to corporation is different than your situation. For LLCs, UCC 9 301 looks at the state where they're organized, same as corporations. The key is always tracking when the legal entity changes or moves.

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Ethan Davis

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But what if they just change their name? Do I need to file amendments for that under UCC 9 301?

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Yuki Tanaka

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You mentioned the equipment moves between multiple states - are you sure UCC 9 301 even applies here? For mobile equipment like trucks, there might be different rules. I know certificate of title laws can override UCC in some cases for vehicles.

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Luca Conti

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These are commercial semi-trucks, not regular passenger vehicles. I believe UCC still applies but you're right that title laws can complicate things. That's another layer I hadn't considered.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Semi-trucks usually fall under UCC unless they're specifically titled as motor vehicles in the state. But with equipment moving between Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana, you might want to check each state's title laws just to be safe.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Here's what I'd do immediately: File a new UCC-1 in Delaware covering all your collateral, not just the stuff from the amendment. Better to have duplicate coverage than gaps. UCC 9 301 allows for filings in multiple jurisdictions and courts generally favor secured creditors who file in good faith.

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Luca Conti

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Won't that look suspicious if we're already in default proceedings? Like we're trying to cover up a filing mistake?

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Carmen Ortiz

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Not suspicious, just prudent. Lenders file protective UCC-1s all the time when jurisdiction is uncertain. Document your reasoning and file in Delaware ASAP. You can always terminate the Texas filing later if needed.

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MidnightRider

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I agree with filing in Delaware but make sure you get the debtor name exactly right. If they reincorporated, their legal name might have changed slightly which could affect the effectiveness of your filing under UCC 9 301.

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Andre Laurent

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Had a case last year where this exact UCC 9 301 issue came up in bankruptcy court. Judge ruled that the original filing remained valid for the original collateral but the amendment was ineffective because it was filed in the wrong state after the debtor moved. Lost priority on about $400K worth of equipment that was added in the amendment.

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Luca Conti

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That's terrifying. So the March 2024 amendment adding equipment might be completely worthless? We added about $800K in additional trucks to the collateral schedule.

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Andre Laurent

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Potentially, yes. But every case is different and depends on the specific timing and circumstances. Get with a good commercial attorney who knows UCC 9 301 inside and out.

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This is why I always recommend Certana.ai for document audits before any major collection action. Upload your UCC-1, UCC-3, and corporate docs and it flags exactly these kinds of UCC 9 301 jurisdictional mismatches. Would have caught the Delaware issue months ago when there was still time to cure it easily.

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Does that tool actually understand the UCC 9 301 location rules or does it just compare document details?

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It specifically checks for jurisdictional consistency - debtor organization state versus filing state. Really sophisticated analysis for something so easy to use.

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Mei Wong

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UCC 9 301 aside, you mentioned they're behind on payments - are you sure this Delaware incorporation wasn't done specifically to complicate your collection efforts? Debtors sometimes try to muddy the waters on purpose when they're in trouble.

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Luca Conti

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That's definitely possible. The timing seems suspicious now that I think about it. They reincorporated right around when they started missing payments.

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Mei Wong

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If that's the case, you might have fraudulent transfer or preference issues to pursue alongside fixing your UCC 9 301 filing problems. Definitely lawyer territory at this point.

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Fraudulent transfer might be a stretch but the Delaware incorporation could definitely be seen as an attempt to impair your security interest if they didn't notify you as required under the loan agreement.

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PixelWarrior

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Quick question - when you say they incorporated in Delaware, did they actually move the business there or just reincorporate for tax reasons? UCC 9 301 cares about legal organization, not business operations, but it might affect your strategy.

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Luca Conti

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Just reincorporated for legal reasons as far as I know. All their operations, equipment, and management are still in Texas. Only the corporate charter moved to Delaware.

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PixelWarrior

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That's pretty common but it still triggers UCC 9 301 location change requirements. Delaware incorporation with Texas operations is classic but you still need to follow Delaware filing rules for the corporate entity.

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Amara Adebayo

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Bottom line on UCC 9 301: Get a Delaware UCC-1 filed TODAY covering all collateral. File a UCC-3 termination in Texas only after you're sure the Delaware filing is effective. Don't take chances with a $2.8M position. The cost of duplicate filings is nothing compared to losing your security interest.

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Luca Conti

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Thanks, that's the most practical advice yet. I'll get our attorney to handle the Delaware filing immediately. Better safe than sorry with this much money on the line.

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Amara Adebayo

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Smart move. And document everything about when you discovered the Delaware incorporation so you have a paper trail showing you acted promptly once you knew about the UCC 9 301 issue.

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