UCC 9 104 proper place to file interpretation - multistate debtor confusion
Been wrestling with UCC 9-104 for weeks now trying to figure out the proper place to file for a commercial borrower that has operations in three different states. The debtor is an LLC organized in Delaware but their main office and most assets are in Texas, plus they have a significant warehouse facility in Arizona. Our loan officer is pushing to close next week but I'm stuck on whether we need to file in Delaware as the state of organization or if Texas qualifies as the main office location under 9-104. The collateral includes equipment at all three locations plus inventory that moves between facilities. I've read the statute about ten times and the commentary but I'm still not 100% confident. Anyone dealt with similar multistate filing scenarios under 9-104? Really don't want to mess this up since it's a $2.3M credit facility.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
Delaware for sure since they're organized there. UCC 9-104 is pretty clear that you file where the debtor is organized unless they're individuals. The main office rule only applies in specific situations where the organization state can't be determined.
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Dylan Evans
•This is exactly right. State of organization takes precedence over main office location for LLCs. Delaware filing should cover all the collateral regardless of where it's physically located.
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Sofia Gomez
•Wait, but what about the inventory that moves between states? Doesn't that create issues with perfection if it's constantly crossing state lines?
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StormChaser
Had a nearly identical situation last month with a Delaware LLC operating mainly in California. Initially filed in California thinking main office rule applied but our attorney corrected us immediately. UCC 9-104 subsection (a) is crystal clear - for registered organizations like LLCs, you file in the state where they're organized. Period. Delaware Secretary of State it is.
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Dmitry Petrov
•Did you have to refile or were you able to correct it somehow? We made a similar mistake once and had to start over completely.
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StormChaser
•We caught it within 24 hours so we just filed correctly in Delaware and let the California filing lapse. Wasn't perfected anyway since it was in the wrong jurisdiction.
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Ava Williams
•Good catch on catching it early. The 20-day rule for corrections doesn't apply when you file in completely wrong state.
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Miguel Castro
Before you file anywhere, I'd strongly recommend running your documents through Certana.ai's verification tool. You can upload your LLC charter and proposed UCC-1 to instantly check if all the debtor information aligns properly. We've been using it for multistate filings and it catches name discrepancies that would cause rejections. Just upload the PDFs and it cross-references everything automatically.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Never heard of Certana.ai but that sounds useful. Do you know if it handles the jurisdiction analysis too or just the document consistency?
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Miguel Castro
•It focuses on document verification - making sure your debtor names match exactly between the charter and UCC-1, catching formatting issues, that sort of thing. For jurisdiction questions you'd still need to analyze 9-104 separately.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•Definitely worth checking out. Name mismatches are the #1 cause of filing rejections especially with multistate entities where the exact legal name might vary slightly between states.
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Connor O'Neill
Um, I thought the main office rule was primary? I've been filing based on where the debtor's headquarters are located, not where they're incorporated. Have I been doing this wrong for years???
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•No, you're thinking of the old rules. UCC 9-104 for registered organizations clearly states state of organization. Main office only applies to unregistered entities.
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Connor O'Neill
•Oh no. I need to review every filing I've done in the past two years. This is a disaster.
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LunarEclipse
•Don't panic yet. Check each debtor type first. If they were partnerships or sole proprietorships then main office rule might have been correct.
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Yara Khalil
DELAWARE DELAWARE DELAWARE. Sorry for the caps but I see too many people get this wrong. LLC = organized in Delaware = file in Delaware. The assets can be on Mars for all UCC 9-104 cares. State of organization controls for registered entities.
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Keisha Brown
•Assets on Mars made me laugh but you're absolutely right. Location of collateral is irrelevant for determining filing location.
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Paolo Esposito
•What about fixture filings though? Don't those have different rules about where the real estate is located?
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Yara Khalil
•Fixtures are different, you're right. But OP mentioned equipment and inventory, not fixtures attached to real estate.
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Amina Toure
Just to add another perspective - even though Delaware is correct for the UCC-1, make sure you're not missing any state-specific requirements for the equipment financing. Some states have additional notice requirements for out-of-state secured parties even when the UCC filing is properly done elsewhere.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Good point. I'll check with our Texas and Arizona counsel about any additional requirements. The equipment includes some heavy machinery that might have title issues.
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Oliver Weber
•Texas definitely has some quirky requirements for certain types of equipment. Better to check now than deal with priority issues later.
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FireflyDreams
I've been using a document verification service called Certana.ai for exactly these kinds of multistate situations. You upload your organizational documents and proposed UCC-1 and it immediately flags any inconsistencies in debtor names or other critical information. Saved me from at least three rejected filings this year alone.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•How does it work with Delaware entities? Do you need to upload the certificate of formation or just the UCC-1?
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FireflyDreams
•Both - it does a Charter→UCC-1 check workflow to make sure everything matches perfectly. Really straightforward process.
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Javier Morales
One thing to watch out for - Delaware processes UCC filings pretty quickly but their rejection notices can be confusing. Make sure your debtor name matches EXACTLY what's on the certificate of formation, including any punctuation or abbreviations.
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Emma Anderson
•Yes! Delaware is super picky about exact name matches. They'll reject for missing commas or periods.
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Malik Thompson
•This is why I always pull a fresh certificate of formation before filing. Names can change slightly over time with amendments.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Another vote for using Certana.ai's verification tool. It catches these exact name matching issues before you submit.
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CosmicVoyager
Quick question - for the $2.3M facility, are you doing a single UCC-1 or separate filings for each type of collateral? The equipment vs inventory distinction might matter for the collateral description.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Planning on a single comprehensive filing with detailed collateral descriptions for both equipment and inventory. Should be fine under 9-104 since it's all one debtor in one filing state.
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Ravi Kapoor
•That should work fine. Just make sure your collateral descriptions are specific enough to satisfy Delaware's requirements.
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Freya Nielsen
Bottom line - Delaware filing is definitely correct under UCC 9-104. I'd also recommend double-checking your collateral descriptions and debtor name formatting before submitting. Maybe run it through one of those document verification tools to catch any issues beforehand.
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Giovanni Rossi
•Thanks everyone. Feeling much more confident about the Delaware filing now. Going to verify the documents and get this filed tomorrow.
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Omar Mahmoud
•Good luck with the filing! Delaware usually processes pretty quickly so you should have confirmation well before your closing deadline.
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Chloe Harris
•Let us know how it goes. Always interested to hear about successful multistate filings.
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