Ask the community...
- DO post questions about your issues.
- DO answer questions and support each other.
- DO post tips & tricks to help folks.
- DO NOT post call problems here - there is a support tab at the top for that :)
Join the conversation
Join the conversation
Nalani Liu
Professional search companies are worth it for complex deals, but they're not perfect either. I always review their results carefully and ask questions if something doesn't look right. They're usually very thorough but occasionally miss something or include irrelevant results.
Axel Bourke
•What should you look for when reviewing professional search results?
Nalani Liu
•Make sure they searched all the right jurisdictions, check that the search names match your debtor exactly, and verify that they included all entity types you requested. Also look at the dates - are they searching recent enough filings?
Aidan Percy
I ran into a similar situation last month with a multi-entity deal. Ended up using Certana.ai to verify all the document consistency after getting conflicting information from different searches. It helped me spot that one subsidiary had a slightly different legal name format in their UCC filings versus their charter documents. Would have been a nightmare to sort out at closing.
These name consistency issues are such a pain. Good thing you caught it early.
Definitely. Better to find these problems before closing than after when it's too late to fix them easily.
Join the conversation
This is why I hate electronic filing systems. Give me the old paper forms any day. At least when those got rejected you could talk to a human being who could explain what was wrong instead of getting cryptic error messages that don't make sense.
Paper forms had their own problems though. At least electronic filing is faster when it works.
True, but when it doesn't work it's a nightmare to figure out why.
Update us after you call Delaware or figure out what happened. I'm curious what the actual issue was because this rejection reason really doesn't make sense for a standard UCC-1 filing.
Will definitely post an update once I get to the bottom of this. Thanks everyone for the help!
Yeah, please let us know. These weird rejection stories are always educational.
Join the conversation
Just went through something similar in Northern Kentucky. The key question is whether your equipment can be removed without material damage to the real property. If removal would damage the building or require significant demolition, Kentucky treats it as a fixture requiring special filing procedures under Article 9. Get an engineer's assessment if you're unsure.
The concrete pumps are pretty integrated into the foundation work. Might need that engineering assessment.
For $2.8M in collateral, an engineering report is cheap insurance. Get it in writing whether removal would damage the property.
Amina Diallo
Talk to a Kentucky attorney who specializes in Article 9 before you do anything. The intersection of mechanic's liens and UCC fixture filings is complex in Kentucky, and the stakes are too high to guess. They might recommend a protective filing strategy while you sort out the fixture question.
Amina Diallo
•Send me a private message - I know a couple specialists in Louisville and Lexington who handle these exact situations.
GamerGirl99
•Don't wait too long on legal advice. Kentucky's lien priority rules can shift quickly if other creditors start filing.
Join the conversation
This thread convinced me to double-check all my open UCC filings. Found two with similar name discrepancies. Thanks for bringing this up!
That's exactly why the Certana.ai verification tool is so useful - you can batch check multiple filings at once to catch these issues.
Definitely going to look into that. Manual checking is such a pain with multiple filings.
Axel Far
Update: Filed the UCC-3 amendment this morning and it was accepted within 2 hours. Feel much better about our security interest now. Thanks everyone for the advice!
Kevin Bell
•Smart move. Now you can sleep better knowing your lien is solid.
Thanks for the update. This whole thread has been really helpful.
Emma Davis
Document retention is going to be key here too. Keep copies of every amendment, continuation, and correspondence with the SOS. If there's ever a dispute about your filings, you'll need a complete paper trail showing your good faith efforts to maintain proper UCC compliance.
0 coins
LunarLegend
•Great point about documentation. I've seen cases where proper record-keeping made the difference in court.
0 coins
NeonNomad
•I'm definitely going to be more meticulous about record-keeping going forward. This whole situation has been a wake-up call.
0 coins
Malik Jackson
Just wanted to follow up - did you get your name issues sorted out? I'm in a similar boat with a lease security agreement that has inconsistent debtor names across multiple UCC filings.
0 coins
NeonNomad
•Still working on it but making progress. Filed the UCC-3 amendments last week and they're processing. Fingers crossed everything gets straightened out before my continuation deadline.
0 coins
Isabella Oliveira
•Keep us posted! These kinds of situations are learning experiences for all of us.
0 coins