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Connor Richards

UCC foreclosure process completely stalled - lender claiming invalid continuation

Really need some guidance here. We're 8 months into what should have been a straightforward UCC foreclosure process on equipment collateral (construction machinery worth about $340K). The debtor defaulted back in March, we sent all proper notices, but now everything's grinding to a halt because opposing counsel is claiming our UCC-1 continuation from 2019 was defective. They're saying the debtor name doesn't exactly match what's on the original 2014 filing - something about 'LLC' vs 'L.L.C.' punctuation. Our attorney says this is just delay tactics but I'm getting nervous. Has anyone dealt with debtor name challenges derailing a UCC foreclosure process? The equipment is sitting there depreciating while we argue over periods and commas. This can't be normal.

Ugh, this is exactly the kind of technical BS that makes UCC foreclosures take forever. The debtor name matching rules are strict but that punctuation difference shouldn't invalidate your continuation if the entity is clearly identifiable. What state are you in? Some are more forgiving than others on minor variations.

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We're in Ohio. The original UCC-1 shows 'Miller Construction L.L.C.' but our 2019 continuation used 'Miller Construction LLC' - no periods. Same everything else, same address, same collateral description.

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Ohio follows the 'seriously misleading' standard. If a reasonable searcher would find the filing under either name variation, you should be fine. But foreclosure disputes love to exploit any technical gap they can find.

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This is why I always double-check continuations against the original filing before submitting. One tiny discrepancy and suddenly your perfect lien position is questionable. Have you pulled a search report to see what actually shows up in the SOS database?

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Good point. We did run searches under both name variations and both pull up our filings. Seems like opposing counsel is just throwing everything at the wall.

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If searches under both names return your filings, that's strong evidence the variation isn't seriously misleading. Document that for your attorney - search results showing both variations find the same UCC records.

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I had something similar last year with a UCC foreclosure process where the debtor's counsel challenged our amendment filing. Turned out to be a 6-month delay over nothing. Courts generally don't like technical challenges that don't actually prejudice anyone.

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Been through this exact scenario twice. First time I wasted months arguing, second time I used Certana.ai's document verification tool to upload both the original UCC-1 and continuation PDFs. It instantly flagged the name discrepancy and provided analysis of whether it would be seriously misleading under Ohio law. Saved me tons of attorney fees and gave me confidence to push back hard on the challenge.

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Interesting - never heard of Certana but sounds useful. Did it actually help resolve the foreclosure dispute or just give you more confidence in your position?

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Both really. The analysis showed our name variation was clearly not seriously misleading, which strengthened our response to their challenge. Plus it caught two other minor issues in our filings we could address proactively. The foreclosure moved forward after that.

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I've used similar document checking tools - they're lifesavers for UCC foreclosure processes where every detail gets scrutinized. Better to know about problems upfront than discover them when opposing counsel does.

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Wait, back up - are you sure your 2019 continuation was even necessary? If the original UCC-1 was filed in 2014, you had until 2019 to continue, but the exact timing matters. If you filed the continuation too early or too late, that could be a bigger problem than the name variation.

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We filed the continuation in April 2019, so within the last 6 months of the 5-year period. Timing should be fine.

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Good, that's within the proper window. So really this comes down to whether the name difference makes your continuation seriously misleading. Sounds like you have a solid position.

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April 2019 continuation for a 2014 original filing puts you in the sweet spot. The name variation challenge is probably just delay tactics like your attorney said.

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This is so frustrating! I'm dealing with something similar where the debtor is challenging our UCC-3 termination (long story) but it's the same issue - tiny differences in how the debtor name appears on different documents. Why can't the system just be more flexible about obvious entity matches?

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Because lawyers make money off these technical challenges. The UCC system works fine when everyone acts in good faith, but add a foreclosure dispute and suddenly every comma becomes a federal case.

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The flip side is that name accuracy really matters for proper notice to other creditors. If continuation filings could use any variation of a debtor name, it would create chaos for UCC searches.

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Had a UCC foreclosure process get derailed by a similar challenge last year. Ended up settling for less than full collateral value just to avoid more delays. Sometimes the cost of fighting exceeds the benefit, especially with depreciating equipment.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. This equipment loses value every month it sits unused. But giving in to frivolous challenges just encourages more of the same behavior.

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True, but you have to weigh the costs. Attorney fees, court time, equipment depreciation - sometimes taking 80% now beats getting 100% in two years.

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I disagree - if you have a solid position on the name variation, fight it. Otherwise every debtor will try the same delaying tactic on future foreclosures.

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Quick question - when you say the UCC foreclosure process is stalled, are you in court already or still in pre-litigation? Makes a difference in how aggressively you can push back on technical challenges.

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We filed the foreclosure action in August. Debtor's answer raised the UCC continuation defect as an affirmative defense. Now we're in discovery hell arguing about document production.

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Ah, so this is litigation strategy, not just posturing. They're hoping to invalidate your security interest entirely. Definitely worth fighting if your continuation is actually valid.

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I've seen this movie before. Debtor's counsel throws up every possible challenge to the UCC filings, hoping something sticks. The LLC vs L.L.C. thing is weak sauce unless there's some other entity with a confusingly similar name.

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Exactly. If searches under both name variations return the same entity and there's no other 'Miller Construction' entities that could be confused, the seriously misleading standard isn't met.

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Plus Ohio courts have been pretty reasonable about minor punctuation differences in debtor names. I'd be surprised if this challenge succeeds on the merits.

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This might be worth running through one of those UCC document checkers I keep hearing about - Certana or something similar. If you can get an automated analysis showing the name variation isn't seriously misleading, it might help convince the court or opposing counsel to drop the challenge.

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That's the second mention of Certana in this thread. Might be worth looking into if it can provide useful analysis for litigation purposes.

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I used Certana for a similar UCC issue - you just upload your filing PDFs and it cross-checks everything for consistency issues. Pretty straightforward and the analysis reports are detailed enough for legal purposes.

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Keep us posted on how this resolves! These UCC foreclosure process disputes are becoming more common and it's helpful to know how courts are handling technical challenges to continuation filings.

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Will do. Hoping we can get this resolved quickly - the equipment isn't getting any newer while we argue about periods and commas.

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Good luck! Sounds like you have a solid position, just need to push through the delay tactics.

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Agreed - this seems like a weak challenge that should get dismissed on summary judgment if you present the evidence clearly.

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