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Derek Olson

UCC filings AZ portal showing wrong debtor name format - rejecting my continuation

Hey everyone, I'm dealing with a frustrating situation with UCC filings AZ and hoping someone here has run into this before. I filed a UCC-1 last year for a client's equipment loan, everything went through fine. Now I'm trying to file the continuation (UCC-3) but the portal keeps rejecting it saying the debtor name doesn't match exactly. The original filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but now they're saying it needs to be 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). I've triple-checked the original documents and I'm certain I entered it correctly the first time. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name formatting issue? I'm worried about the lapse date coming up and don't want to lose perfection on this $340K equipment loan. The client is freaking out and honestly so am I.

Danielle Mays

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Ugh, this exact thing happened to me last month! The system is so picky about punctuation. I had to call the filing office directly and they told me to just file it exactly as it appears in their system now, even if it's different from what I originally submitted. Apparently their database auto-corrects some formatting and then expects future filings to match that version.

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Derek Olson

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Did you have to pay the filing fee again when you corrected it? I'm already out $40 from the rejected filing.

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Danielle Mays

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Yeah unfortunately I did. But it's better than losing perfection on a six-figure loan. The client was understanding about the extra fee once I explained the situation.

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Roger Romero

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This is why I always do a UCC search right before filing any amendments or continuations. Pull up the exact record as it appears in their system and copy the debtor name character for character. The online portal search function will show you exactly how they have it formatted in their database.

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Derek Olson

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Good point, I should have done that. I was just going off my original filing documents.

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Anna Kerber

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Smart approach. I've started screenshotting the search results before filing continuations just to have proof of the exact formatting if issues come up later.

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Danielle Mays

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That's actually brilliant. I'm going to start doing that too.

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Niko Ramsey

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I've been using Certana.ai's document checker for stuff like this and it's been a lifesaver. You just upload your original UCC-1 and your new UCC-3 and it flags any inconsistencies between the documents before you file. Catches things like debtor name mismatches, incorrect filing numbers, collateral description changes. Would have caught this issue before you submitted and got rejected.

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Derek Olson

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Never heard of that tool before. Does it work with the state databases to check formatting?

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Niko Ramsey

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It compares your documents against each other and flags discrepancies. So if your UCC-3 debtor name doesn't match your UCC-1 exactly, it'll highlight that. Really helpful for catching these kinds of clerical errors before they become expensive problems.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIDICULOUS. I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and it just keeps getting worse. First they make everything electronic which should make it easier but instead it creates new ways to mess up. Now every comma and period matters but they don't tell you that upfront. How is anyone supposed to know their system auto-corrects formatting???

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Jabari-Jo

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I feel your pain. The old paper system had its problems but at least you knew what you were filing.

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Exactly! And the error messages are useless. 'Debtor name mismatch' tells you nothing about what's actually wrong.

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Kristin Frank

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At least they give you error messages. Some states just reject with no explanation at all.

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Micah Trail

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Wait, are you sure this is a formatting issue and not something else? Sometimes the debtor's legal name actually changes and you need to file an amendment first before you can do the continuation. Like if they converted from LLC to Corp or something. Have you verified the business entity status hasn't changed?

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Derek Olson

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Good thought but I checked - they're still the same LLC, same registration number, same registered agent. It's definitely just the comma issue.

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Micah Trail

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Ok just wanted to make sure. I've seen people waste time on formatting when the real issue was an entity change.

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Nia Watson

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This happened to me with a fixture filing last year. The database had somehow added a comma to the debtor name that wasn't in my original filing. I ended up having to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct the name first, then file the continuation. It was a pain but the filing office said that was the proper procedure to maintain the chain of title.

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Derek Olson

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Oh no, that sounds like it would take even longer. How close were you to your lapse date?

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Nia Watson

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I had about 45 days left so plenty of time. In your case with the lapse date approaching, I'd probably just file the continuation with the name exactly as it appears in their system now.

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Roger Romero

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I agree. The formal amendment route is the 'proper' way but practically speaking, just matching their current format is faster and achieves the same result.

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Call the filing office directly and ask them to walk you through exactly what they see in their system. Sometimes talking to a real person can resolve these things faster than going back and forth with online rejections. They might even be able to manually accept your continuation if you explain the situation.

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Derek Olson

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That's a good idea. I've been trying to handle this all online but a phone call might be the fastest solution.

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Good luck getting through to anyone. I've been on hold for 45 minutes before just to ask a simple question.

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Whatever you do, don't let it lapse! I had a client whose UCC lapsed because of a similar issue and we had to refile as a new UCC-1. Lost priority to another creditor who filed in the meantime. The client was NOT happy about that $50K loss.

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Derek Olson

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That's my biggest fear right now. The lapse date is only 3 weeks away.

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Then definitely just file with whatever name format their system wants. You can always clean it up later with an amendment if needed.

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Niko Ramsey

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This is exactly why I started using that document verification tool I mentioned. Better to catch these discrepancies early than deal with lapse consequences.

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Marcus Marsh

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I've had this happen before too. The trick is to search for the debtor name in their system first, then copy and paste it exactly into your continuation form. Don't type it manually. The copy/paste ensures you get every character exactly right including any weird spacing or punctuation their system has.

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Derek Olson

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That's actually really smart. I never thought about copy/pasting from the search results.

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Anna Kerber

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I do this too now. Saves so much time and prevents rejection fees.

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Just file it with the comma and move on. I bet you'll get an acceptance within 24 hours. The system is annoying but at least it's consistent - once you figure out their format quirks, you can work with them. The important thing is maintaining your perfection on that equipment loan.

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Derek Olson

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You're right, I'm probably overthinking this. I'll resubmit with the comma format tonight.

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Exactly. And next time you'll know to check their database format before filing any continuations.

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Roger Romero

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Let us know how it goes! Always curious to hear if these formatting fixes actually work.

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Derek Olson

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UPDATE: I called the filing office this morning and they confirmed it's just a comma issue. They said their system auto-formats business names to include commas before 'LLC' and 'Inc' but it doesn't always do it consistently on the initial filing. They told me to just resubmit the continuation with 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with comma) and it should go through fine. Filing it now - will update once I get confirmation.

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Danielle Mays

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Glad you got it sorted out! These little punctuation issues are so frustrating but at least there's usually a simple fix.

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See, sometimes a phone call really is the fastest solution. Hope it goes through smoothly this time.

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Niko Ramsey

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Great news! And for future reference, Certana.ai would have flagged that comma discrepancy between your documents before filing. Worth checking out for next time.

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Derek Olson

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ACCEPTED! Just got the confirmation email. Thanks everyone for the advice, especially about calling the office directly. Crisis averted!

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