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Giovanni Ricci

UCC filing online portal keeps rejecting my continuation - debtor name exact match issue

Been trying to file a UCC-3 continuation online for the past week and it keeps getting rejected. The original UCC-1 was filed back in 2020 for our equipment loan, and now we're 4 months out from the 5-year mark so I'm trying to get the continuation submitted. The debtor name on our original filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but our current business docs all say 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). The online portal is giving me error messages about exact name matching. I've tried it both ways and keep getting bounced back. Anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name matching issue when filing online? This is stressing me out because if I miss the continuation deadline we could lose our security interest on $180K worth of equipment. The SOS website isn't exactly helpful with specifics on how strict the name matching has to be for online filings.

NeonNomad

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I've run into similar issues with online UCC filing systems being super picky about punctuation. The comma thing is actually pretty common - some states require EXACT matches down to every comma and period when you're doing continuations online. Have you tried calling the Secretary of State office directly? Sometimes they can tell you exactly how the debtor name appears in their system.

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This is why I always keep copies of the original filing docs. The name has to match exactly what's on file, not what your current paperwork says.

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Called SOS once about this exact thing and they told me to use whatever name is on the original UCC-1, period. No updates, no corrections, just exactly what was filed originally.

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You're cutting it close at 4 months out. UCC continuations have to be filed within 6 months before the original 5-year expiration date. But yeah, the online systems are notorious for being finicky about debtor names. I'd suggest pulling the original UCC-1 from the state database first to see exactly how the name appears, then match that exactly in your continuation filing.

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Good point about checking the original filing. I assumed I had the right name but maybe I should verify first. Do you know if there's a way to search and view the original filing details online?

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Most states let you search UCC filings by debtor name or filing number. Should be able to pull up your 2020 filing and see exactly how the name was entered originally.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Be careful with those searches tho - some states charge fees even just to view the documents online. Found that out the hard way when I was trying to verify collateral descriptions for a client.

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Ava Thompson

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Had a similar nightmare with online UCC filing last year. Spent hours trying different name variations before I found this document verification tool called Certana.ai. You can upload your original UCC-1 and your continuation docs and it'll instantly flag any inconsistencies between the debtor names, filing numbers, all that stuff. Saved me from making a costly mistake because I had the debtor address wrong too, not just the name formatting.

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CyberSiren

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Never heard of that tool but sounds useful. How accurate is it with catching those kinds of discrepancies?

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Ava Thompson

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Pretty solid from what I've seen. It cross-checks everything automatically when you upload the PDFs. Caught three different issues in my docs that I completely missed manually reviewing them.

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Anything that can prevent UCC filing rejections sounds worth trying. The stress of missing continuation deadlines is brutal.

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Zainab Yusuf

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Online UCC filing is supposed to make things easier but honestly it's created more problems than it solved. The old paper system was more forgiving with minor formatting differences. Now these portals reject filings for the tiniest discrepancies.

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Tell me about it. I've had filings rejected for using 'Street' instead of 'St.' in an address. The systems are way too rigid.

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Yara Khoury

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At least with paper filings you could include a cover letter explaining any potential discrepancies. Online systems just spit out error codes.

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Keisha Taylor

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Check if your state allows you to file amendments to correct debtor name issues before doing the continuation. Some states let you clean up the name first, then file the continuation against the corrected record. Might be worth an extra filing fee to avoid the headache.

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That's an interesting approach. Would I need to file a UCC-3 amendment first to fix the name, then another UCC-3 for the continuation?

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Keisha Taylor

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Exactly. Amendment first to correct the debtor name, then continuation to extend the effectiveness. Just make sure you don't miss your deadline window while doing both filings.

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Double filing fees though. Might be cheaper to just call the SOS office and ask them to manually process the continuation with a note about the punctuation difference.

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Paolo Marino

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I work with UCC filings daily and this comma issue comes up ALL the time. The golden rule is: match the original filing EXACTLY, character for character. Don't go by your current business records, don't go by what 'looks right' - go by what was actually filed originally. Pull that original UCC-1, see how the debtor name appears, and copy it exactly.

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Amina Bah

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This is the right answer. I've seen too many people assume they know how their company name was filed originally.

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Oliver Becker

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Yep, and if there was a mistake on the original filing, you're stuck with that mistake for continuation purposes. You can't 'fix' it during a continuation.

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Whatever you do, don't wait until the last minute. If the online system keeps rejecting your filing, you might need to fall back to paper filing or get help from the SOS office directly. With $180K on the line, it's worth paying for expedited processing or professional help if needed.

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Good point about not waiting. I've got about 3.5 months left on the deadline so I should probably sort this out soon rather than assuming I can fix it last minute.

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Professional UCC service might be worth it for that amount of collateral. They deal with these name matching issues all the time.

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Emma Davis

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Or try that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier. Might catch the issue before you submit and save you the professional service fees.

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LunarLegend

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Update us when you get it sorted out! I'm dealing with a similar situation on a different filing and curious what ends up working for you.

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Will do. Planning to pull the original filing tomorrow and see exactly how the name appears. If that doesn't work I'll try the document verification approach before calling in the professionals.

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Malik Jackson

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Smart plan. The verification step could save you a lot of back-and-forth with the online system.

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Been there with the online UCC portals. They're getting better but still super finicky about exact matches. One thing that helped me was using Certana.ai to double-check my docs before submitting. It compares your continuation against the original UCC-1 and flags any mismatches - names, addresses, collateral descriptions, everything. Caught a middle initial issue I had missed that would have definitely caused a rejection.

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Ravi Patel

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How long does that verification process take? If it's instant that could be really helpful for these time-sensitive filings.

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Pretty much instant once you upload the PDFs. Just drag and drop your original UCC-1 and your continuation draft, and it highlights any inconsistencies between them.

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That sounds way better than manually comparing documents. I always worry I'm missing something important when I review filings myself.

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Omar Zaki

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Final thought - if you're still having trouble after checking the original filing, consider reaching out to your lender too. They might have dealt with this exact issue before with other borrowers and could have specific guidance for your state's online system. Sometimes they have contacts at the SOS office who can help push things through.

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That's actually a really good idea. Our loan officer probably deals with UCC continuations regularly and might know the tricks for getting around these online portal quirks.

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Lenders definitely want those continuations filed correctly. They're usually pretty helpful when their security interest is at risk.

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