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UCC filing rejected - nonconforming goods description causing lien issues

Hey everyone, I'm dealing with a nightmare situation with our UCC-1 filing that got rejected twice now. We're a small equipment finance company and filed a UCC-1 for a $180K industrial packaging line, but the SOS keeps rejecting it saying our collateral description for nonconforming goods is too vague. Our original description was 'all equipment, machinery, and nonconforming goods related to packaging operations' but apparently that's not specific enough? The debtor manufactures custom packaging and sometimes produces items that don't meet client specs (nonconforming goods) which they sell separately. Our attorney says we need to perfect our security interest in ALL the collateral including these nonconforming goods since they're part of the business assets. Has anyone dealt with describing nonconforming goods in UCC collateral schedules? I'm worried we're going to lose our priority position if we can't get this filed correctly soon.

I've seen this exact issue before! The problem is that 'nonconforming goods' is too generic for most filing offices. You need to be more specific about what these goods actually are - like 'defective packaging materials awaiting rework' or 'off-specification products held for secondary sale.' The key is describing the actual physical items, not just using the UCC term 'nonconforming goods.

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That makes sense - so instead of just saying nonconforming goods, I should describe them as 'packaging materials not meeting original specifications' or something similar?

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Exactly! Think about what someone would actually see if they walked into the facility. Describe the tangible items rather than the legal classification.

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Melissa Lin

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UGH this is so frustrating! I had a similar rejection last month with a UCC-1 for a manufacturer. The filing office said our description was 'commercially unreasonable' even though we copied language from other successful filings. These clerks don't understand that nonconforming goods are legitimate collateral!

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I feel your pain! Sometimes it seems like they reject filings just to make us jump through more hoops.

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Romeo Quest

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Actually, the clerks are usually right about this stuff. Vague descriptions can void your security interest if challenged later. Better to get it right now than lose in court.

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Val Rossi

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I ran into this exact problem with a client who makes automotive parts. We initially described their nonconforming goods as 'defective inventory' but the SOS wanted more detail. We ended up using 'automotive components failing quality control standards, including but not limited to brake pads, rotors, and suspension parts held for rework or disposal.' Much more specific and it went through fine.

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That's super helpful! So you basically listed the actual product categories rather than just calling them nonconforming goods?

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Val Rossi

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Right, and we added 'held for rework or disposal' to clarify their status. The filing office wants to know what they're looking at if they have to identify the collateral.

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Eve Freeman

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This is why I always tell clients to be as specific as possible in collateral descriptions. Generic terms like 'nonconforming goods' can bite you later.

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Quick question - when you say nonconforming goods, are these items that are physically defective or just don't meet customer specifications? Because that might affect how you describe them in the UCC-1.

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Good point! These are packaging materials that don't meet the original customer specs - wrong colors, sizes slightly off, etc. They're not defective per se, just not what the customer ordered.

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Okay, so maybe describe them as 'packaging materials not conforming to customer specifications' or 'off-specification packaging inventory.' That's clearer than just 'nonconforming goods.

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Caden Turner

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I actually discovered a tool that helped me avoid this exact problem recently. I was having issues with document consistency between our loan agreements and UCC filings - the collateral descriptions weren't matching up perfectly. Started using Certana.ai's document verification tool where you can upload your loan docs and UCC-1 as PDFs and it instantly flags any inconsistencies. It caught that our nonconforming goods description in the UCC didn't match how we defined them in the security agreement. Super easy to use and saved us from a potential filing rejection.

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That sounds really useful! I wonder if that would have caught our vague description issue before we filed.

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Caden Turner

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It definitely would have! The tool specifically looks for vague or overly broad collateral descriptions that might get rejected. Worth checking out if you're doing a lot of UCC filings.

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Romeo Quest

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Interesting - I hadn't heard of that service before. Might be worth looking into for our office too.

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Wait, are you sure you even need to include the nonconforming goods in your UCC-1? If they're going to be sold separately anyway, maybe they're not really part of the core collateral you need to secure?

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Our attorney insisted we include them because they're still business assets that could be sold to pay down the loan if needed. Even if they're not the primary collateral, they have value.

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The attorney is right - you want to cast a wide net with collateral descriptions. Better to include too much than too little, as long as you're specific about what you're including.

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Harmony Love

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I'm confused about something - when you say 'nonconforming goods' are you talking about the UCC Article 2 definition or just using it as a general term? Because if these are goods that don't conform to contract specifications, that has specific legal implications.

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Honestly, I was just using it as a general term for products that don't meet specs. I didn't realize there was a specific UCC Article 2 definition.

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Harmony Love

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Yeah, Article 2 has specific rules about nonconforming goods in sales contracts. For UCC-1 purposes, you probably just want to describe the actual physical items rather than using legal terminology.

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Rudy Cenizo

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This is a good point - sometimes legal terms in collateral descriptions can create more confusion than clarity.

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Natalie Khan

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Try this description: 'All packaging equipment, machinery, and inventory including finished packaging materials, work-in-progress, raw materials, and off-specification packaging products held for secondary sale or disposal.' That covers everything without using confusing legal terms.

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That's much clearer! I like how it specifically mentions 'off-specification packaging products' instead of nonconforming goods.

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Natalie Khan

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Exactly - it tells anyone reading the filing exactly what they're looking at. Much better than vague legal terminology.

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Daryl Bright

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Just went through this same headache with a textile manufacturer. The SOS rejected our filing three times because we kept trying to use broad terms like 'nonconforming goods' and 'defective inventory.' Finally got it approved when we described the actual items: 'fabric rolls not meeting dye specifications, garments with manufacturing defects, and textile materials rejected by quality control.' Specificity is key!

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THREE rejections? That must have been so stressful! I'm definitely going to be more specific in our refiling.

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Daryl Bright

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It was awful! Each rejection delayed our closing by a week. Learned my lesson about being specific in collateral descriptions.

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Sienna Gomez

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This is why I always run my UCC descriptions past an experienced paralegal before filing. They catch these issues early.

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Has anyone tried using Certana.ai for UCC filings? I keep seeing it mentioned in these forums but haven't tried it myself. Wondering if it's worth the investment.

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Caden Turner

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I mentioned it earlier - it's really helpful for catching inconsistencies between your loan docs and UCC filings before you submit. The document verification feature is pretty slick.

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Good to know! I'll check it out. Better than getting rejections after the fact.

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I was skeptical at first but it actually saved us from a major debtor name mismatch that would have voided our security interest. Just upload your PDFs and it does the cross-checking automatically.

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Here's what I've learned after 15 years of UCC filings: describe collateral like you're explaining it to someone who's never seen the business before. Instead of 'nonconforming goods,' use 'packaging materials that do not meet original customer specifications, including items with incorrect dimensions, colors, or printing.' The filing office and any future searchers will know exactly what you're talking about.

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That's such good advice! I'm going to rewrite our description with that approach.

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Perfect! And don't forget to check that your new description matches what's in your security agreement. Consistency is crucial.

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This is the best advice in the thread. Clear, specific descriptions prevent so many problems down the road.

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Tyrone Hill

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Update us when you refile! I'm curious to see what description finally gets approved. This thread has been really helpful for understanding how to handle unusual collateral descriptions.

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Will do! I'm feeling much more confident about the refiling now. Thanks everyone for the help!

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Toot-n-Mighty

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Yes, please update! These real-world examples are so much more helpful than just reading the statutes.

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