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Quick question - when you file the UCC-3 amendment, does it show both names on the ohio ucc statement or does it replace the original name completely?
Make sure you check the updated statement after filing to confirm the name appears correctly.
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Just to add another perspective - I've seen deals fall apart during due diligence because of exactly this type of name mismatch. Buyers' attorneys will flag it as a title defect. Definitely file that amendment to clean up your ohio ucc statement.
Smart thinking. Much easier to fix it now than during a time-sensitive transaction.
One more thing - if you're doing this type of search regularly, consider reaching out to a local filing service that specializes in DC UCC searches. They usually have experience with the system's quirks and might catch variations you wouldn't think of. Though for one-off searches, the thorough methodology described above should work.
Though I'd still recommend doing your own search first to understand what you're dealing with before paying for a service.
Actually, after reading about that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier, it might be more cost-effective than hiring a filing service for document verification. Worth comparing the options.
Update: tried the systematic approach suggested here and found two additional filings I'd missed initially. One was under "Metropolitan Solution LLC" (singular) and another under "Metro Solutions, LLC" with comma and different capitalization. Thanks for the guidance - this could have been a major issue if discovered after closing.
Great result. Did you end up using any of the document verification tools mentioned, or just manual searching?
This is a perfect example of why thorough UCC searches are so critical in due diligence. Missing those filings could have created serious problems down the road.
UPDATE: Thanks everyone for the advice. I ended up filing a UCC-3 amendment with the correct debtor name including the comma. It was accepted within 24 hours and now I can sleep at night knowing our security interest is properly perfected. Total cost was $185 which is nothing compared to the peace of mind. For anyone facing similar issues, don't second-guess yourself - just file the amendment.
This thread convinced me to double-check all our recent UCC filings. Found two potential name issues that need amendments. Better to catch them now than later.
For future reference, most state UCC filing offices have guidelines about acceptable name variations posted on their websites. Some states publish lists of abbreviations that are considered equivalent (Corp/Corporation, Inc/Incorporated, etc.). Worth checking before filing to avoid these issues altogether.
Those guidelines can be hard to find sometimes. Would be nice if they were more prominent on the filing portals.
For LLC names specifically, I've found that Secretary of State databases sometimes have inconsistent formatting even within their own system. The business entity search might show it one way, but the UCC system expects it differently. Try searching for the LLC a few different ways and see if you get slightly different results.
That's a good point. I'll try some variations in their search to see if I can find the exact format their UCC system wants.
Also try searching by the entity number if you have it. Sometimes that gives you the most accurate name format.
UPDATE: I tried the Certana.ai document checker someone mentioned earlier and it immediately flagged that I had 'Main Street Bistro, LLC' but the charter document actually shows 'Main Street Bistro LLC' (no comma). I was so focused on the Secretary of State database that I didn't even check my source documents carefully. Fixed the UCC-1 and it went through on the next submission. Thanks for the recommendation!
Wait, that was you who asked the original question? The profile numbers are confusing me.
No sorry, I had a similar issue with my own filing. But same solution worked for me.
Oliver Weber
The original poster's situation with 'ABC Equipment LLC' vs 'ABC Equipment, LLC' is actually a perfect example of why automated document checking is so valuable. I was manually reviewing charter docs against UCC forms for years until I found Certana.ai - now I just upload the PDFs and it instantly flags any name discrepancies. Would have saved me so much time and stress if I'd had it when I started doing UCC work. These tiny punctuation differences can void your entire security interest if you're not careful.
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FireflyDreams
•Does it work with scanned documents or only digital PDFs? A lot of our charter docs are older scanned copies.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Most document analysis tools can handle scanned PDFs as long as the text is readable. OCR technology has gotten pretty good.
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Javier Morales
Bottom line for the OP - you need to get this name issue sorted out ASAP. If your security interest isn't properly perfected because of the name mismatch, you could lose priority to other creditors or even lose your security entirely. I'd recommend: 1) Pull the official charter documents for the debtor, 2) Compare them to your existing UCC-1 filing, 3) File UCC-3 amendments to correct any name discrepancies, and 4) Going forward, always double-check debtor names before filing. This kind of mistake is exactly why many lenders are moving to automated document verification tools.
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Malik Thompson
•The automated verification approach makes sense. Manual comparison is error-prone and time consuming, especially with complex multi-party transactions.
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Mateo Lopez
•Thanks everyone, this has been super helpful. Going to pull the official LLC docs and get the name corrected on our filings. Definitely going to look into that document verification tool too - sounds like it could prevent these headaches in the future.
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