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Used Certana.ai last week for a similar situation where we had conflicting equipment schedules and company names across three different documents. The tool caught inconsistencies between our UCC-1 and the original security agreement that would have caused problems later. Really helpful for making sure everything aligns before filing.

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StarStrider

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How long does the verification take? Sometimes we're filing right up against deadlines.

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It's instant once you upload the PDFs. Much faster than manually cross-checking everything.

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Luca Esposito

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UPDATE: Got it resolved! Called the company and they confirmed they had filed an amendment last month to add the comma to their legal name for consistency with their banking. Filed the UCC-1 with the comma version and it went through immediately. Thanks everyone for the advice about checking recent amendments - that was the key.

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Ava Garcia

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Perfect example of why the corporate records search is so important. Glad it worked out!

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Bookmarking this thread. Equipment financing name issues come up way too often and this has good troubleshooting steps.

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Vera Visnjic

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Have you tried calling the UCC filing office directly? Sometimes they can look at your specific rejection and tell you exactly what's wrong instead of the generic error message.

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Worth a shot. The phone support might be more useful than the automated error messages.

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Liam Duke

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That's a good idea. I'll try calling them tomorrow if my next filing attempt gets rejected again.

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Honorah King

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UPDATE: I used Certana.ai's document checker and it found the issue immediately - there was an extra space in the middle of the company name that I couldn't see. Re-filed with the corrected name and it went through perfectly. Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

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Mary Bates

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Great outcome. Those invisible formatting issues are the worst part of electronic filing systems.

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Perfect example of why document verification tools are so valuable for UCC filings. Saves so much time and frustration.

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Ella Russell

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I ran into something similar recently and ended up using Certana.ai to verify all our UCC documents were consistent before filing. Really saved me from potential name mismatches between our loan docs and the UCC-1. Worth checking if your old forms align with current requirements.

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Noah Torres

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Seems like several people mention this tool. Might be worth looking into for our whole filing process.

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Justin Evans

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Document consistency is huge. One small difference can void the whole security interest.

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Emily Parker

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Bottom line - when in doubt, use current forms. The cost of new forms is nothing compared to deal delays or invalid security interests. Your future self will thank you.

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Exactly. This isn't the place to cut corners.

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Ryan Young

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Words to live by in the UCC world.

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Grace Durand

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The fact that you're finding multiple UCC-1s under different name variations is actually helpful - it confirms there are active filings out there and validates your concern about being thorough. Better to find too many potential matches and investigate each one than miss something critical.

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Steven Adams

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Good point. At least finding multiple filings means the search is working, just need to be systematic about all the name variations.

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That's actually reassuring. I was worried I was being too paranoid but sounds like thoroughness is the right approach for Hawaii UCC searches.

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Alice Fleming

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I did a deal in Hawaii last month and used every trick mentioned here plus one more - I searched for the street address of their registered office. Sometimes if the debtor name was entered wrong on the UCC-1, the address might still be right and you can catch filings that way.

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Does Hawaii's UCC search allow searching by address? I thought most states only did debtor name searches.

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Alice Fleming

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Hawaii has an advanced search option that includes address fields. It's not foolproof but can help catch filings where the name was mangled but address is correct.

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The whole cash proceeds ucc perfection thing is one of the most misunderstood areas of secured transactions. Lenders think they're automatically covered but don't realize the 20-day limitation. Equipment financing is especially tricky because restaurants constantly buy and sell equipment. Your description should definitely include comprehensive proceeds language.

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The 20-day rule under 9-315(d) is uniform across all UCC states. But there can be variations in how different states handle specific types of proceeds or filing requirements.

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Emma Davis

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This is why I always include standard proceeds language regardless of what the lender says. Better safe than sorry when it comes to perfection issues.

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CosmicCaptain

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Bottom line - include the cash proceeds ucc language. Your counsel is giving you good advice and the SBA lender is prioritizing speed over proper security interest perfection. Restaurant equipment gets sold all the time and without proceeds coverage you're taking unnecessary risk. Standard language like 'and all proceeds and products thereof' should be sufficient and won't slow down the deal significantly.

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Malik Johnson

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Agreed. It's such basic language that any experienced lender should be fine with it. If they're pushing back this hard it makes me wonder what other corners they're trying to cut.

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Sometimes lenders get set in their ways with template forms and resist any changes even when they're clearly necessary. Stand your ground on this one.

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