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Whatever you do, make sure you're searching under all possible debtor names including any DBAs or trade names. I've seen UCC filings under names that weren't obvious from the main corporate records.
DBA searches are crucial. Sometimes the UCC-1 gets filed under the trade name instead of the legal entity name.
This is why I always request a complete list of all business names from the borrower upfront. Saves time later.
The bottom line is you can't rely on just one search. Use multiple services, check the state databases directly when possible, and verify the status of any filings you find. It's extra work but it protects your lender's security interest.
Definitely look into some of the automated tools to help streamline the verification process. Makes the multi-source approach much more manageable.
Smart approach. Better to over-search than under-search when it comes to UCC and lien verification.
For what it's worth, I had a similar comma issue with a Texas filing and their system accepted both versions. But California is definitely stricter. When in doubt, call the SOS filing office directly - they can usually give you guidance on specific name formatting questions.
This whole thread is exactly why I document everything when filing UCCs. Screenshot the SOS search results, save the exact search terms used, and keep a copy of whatever name format you find. If there's ever a question later, you have proof of your due diligence.
I do the same thing - always screenshot the database search results with the timestamp visible. Covers you if there are any questions later about why you used a particular name format.
Thanks everyone for all the input. Going to file with the exact SOS database name and document everything as suggested. Really appreciate the collective wisdom here!
One thing to watch out for in NJ - if you're filing against a foreign LLC (registered in another state but qualified to do business in NJ), make sure you're using the name as it appears on their NJ foreign qualification, not their home state charter. They might be slightly different.
Hope this helps but honestly after dealing with all these filing headaches I'm seriously considering switching to a different practice area. The stress of getting every punctuation mark perfect is killing me.
Don't give up! It gets easier once you develop a system for double-checking everything.
I totally get that feeling. This is exactly why I'm looking for tools to help catch these details before filing.
I actually discovered Certana.ai after getting burned by a similar situation. Now I upload all my UCC documents there first to make sure everything is consistent before filing. It catches those tiny discrepancies that cause rejections - like if your UCC-3 debtor name doesn't exactly match your original UCC-1. Way better than trusting these scam services.
That sounds really useful for avoiding the name mismatch rejections that are so common.
Exactly, and it's way cheaper than paying hundreds to these fake services that don't actually file anything.
The Texas AG should really go after these operations. They're clearly targeting people who don't understand UCC filings and charging outrageous fees for basic state services. It's predatory and probably affects thousands of small business owners.
Liam Sullivan
Following up on the Certana suggestion from earlier - I started using their document checker after getting burned on a similar situation. What I like is that you can upload multiple documents at once (articles, UCC drafts, loan agreements) and it flags any inconsistencies between them. Saves you from the manual cross-checking nightmare and catches things like that comma issue mentioned above. Pretty much eliminates the guesswork on name variations.
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Amara Okafor
•Does it work with all states or just certain ones? Some of these tools only work with major states.
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Liam Sullivan
•From what I've seen it handles all state UCC systems. The document verification part is what's really valuable though - catches inconsistencies before they become problems.
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CosmicCommander
Update: Just ran into this exact same issue with a CT search yesterday. Ended up finding the filing under a completely different entity name that was buried in the borrower's corporate structure. Sometimes these LLCs have parent companies or holding companies that you don't see on the surface. Make sure you get a complete corporate family tree from the borrower.
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NeonNebula
•Good catch - I'm definitely going to dig deeper into their corporate structure. This is exactly the kind of thing I was worried about missing.
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CosmicCommander
•Yeah, it turned out the parent company had filed the UCC-1 even though the subsidiary was the actual borrower. Almost missed it completely.
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