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Who pays unemployment insurance tax in Washington - employer or employee?

I just started a new job and noticed my paycheck doesn't show any deductions for unemployment insurance. My previous employer in another state used to take it out of my pay, but my new Washington employer says they pay it all. Is this right? I'm confused about who actually pays the unemployment insurance tax that funds Washington ESD benefits. Can someone explain how this works?

In Washington state, employers pay the entire unemployment insurance tax. Employees don't have any deductions taken from their paychecks for UI benefits. Your employer is correct - they pay quarterly taxes to Washington ESD based on their payroll and experience rating.

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That's a relief! I was worried I wasn't contributing properly. So when I file for unemployment, the benefits come from what my employer paid in?

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Exactly. All Washington ESD unemployment benefits are funded by employer contributions. The amount your employer pays depends on their claims history and industry rating.

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yeah washington is different from some other states, here its all on the employer side

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Wait, some states make employees pay too? I had no idea it varied by state.

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yep some states take it out of your check, washington doesnt though

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Washington follows what's called an employer-funded system. Employers pay unemployment insurance taxes quarterly to Washington ESD. The tax rate varies by employer based on their 'experience rating' - basically how many former employees have filed UI claims. New employers start with a standard rate, then it adjusts based on their claim history over time.

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This is super helpful! I'm starting my own business and was wondering about this. Do you know what the standard rate is for new employers?

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New employers in Washington typically start around 2.7% of taxable wages, but it can vary by industry classification. You'll want to register with Washington ESD once you have employees.

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So if my employer has had a lot of people file for unemployment, their rate goes up? That seems fair.

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The employer pays all UI taxes in Washington. I think the current taxable wage base is around $62,500 per employee per year, so employers pay the percentage rate on wages up to that amount. Anything above that threshold isn't subject to UI tax.

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So if I make $80,000, my employer only pays UI tax on the first $62,500?

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Correct. The taxable wage base gets adjusted annually. Your employer would pay UI tax on $62,500 of your wages, not the full $80,000.

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This is why Washington has decent unemployment benefits compared to some states - employers fully fund the system. When you file a claim with Washington ESD, you're accessing benefits that your employer (and previous employers) paid into over time.

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makes sense why some employers get nervous about people filing claims then

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Exactly. Too many claims can increase their experience rating and raise their UI tax rate for future years.

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What happens if an employer doesn't pay their UI taxes? Can employees still get benefits?

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Yes, employees can still file claims even if their employer is delinquent on UI taxes. Washington ESD will pursue the employer for unpaid taxes separately. The employee isn't penalized for their employer's non-payment.

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Good to know! I was worried about that with my last job - the owner seemed pretty disorganized with taxes.

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Been running a small business in Washington for 8 years now. Can confirm employers pay all UI taxes here. The rate starts low for new businesses but can go up significantly if you have a lot of claims. I've seen rates as high as 5-6% for companies with poor experience ratings.

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Wow, that's a huge difference from the starting rate. Do you try to avoid laying people off because of this?

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It's definitely a factor in business decisions. Layoffs aren't just about severance costs - they impact your UI tax rate for years. But sometimes you have no choice.

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I'm still confused about one thing - if employers pay all the UI tax, why do some job applications ask if you've ever filed for unemployment? Seems like it shouldn't matter to a new employer.

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That's actually a good point. Legally, employers can't discriminate based on unemployment claim history in most situations. Those questions are often outdated or inappropriate.

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Some employers wrongly think previous unemployment claims indicate something negative about the applicant. It's unfortunate bias since filing for UI is often due to circumstances beyond the worker's control.

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Does anyone know if the UI tax rate includes the administrative costs for running Washington ESD, or is that separate funding?

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The UI taxes employers pay do cover Washington ESD's administrative costs, plus the actual benefit payments. It's all funded through employer contributions, not general state revenue.

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My cousin works in HR and says their company's UI rate went down this year because they haven't had any claims in a while. The experience rating system really does reward employers who maintain stable employment.

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That's how it's supposed to work. Companies with good employment practices get lower rates over time, while those with high turnover pay more.

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seems like a good incentive system to me

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One thing to remember - even though employers pay the UI tax, it's ultimately part of your total compensation package. Employers factor these costs into what they can afford to pay in wages and benefits.

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Never thought about it that way. So indirectly we are kind of paying for it through potentially lower wages?

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It's one of many factors employers consider in compensation decisions, along with health insurance, workers comp, Social Security taxes, etc.

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The Washington system is actually pretty worker-friendly compared to states where employees have to pay UI taxes out of their paychecks. Plus our benefit amounts are decent.

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What's the maximum weekly benefit amount in Washington these days?

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I think it's around $999 per week maximum, but it depends on your past wages. Most people get less than the max.

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For anyone still confused: Washington employers pay quarterly UI taxes to fund unemployment benefits. Employees pay nothing out of their paychecks. The tax rate depends on the employer's history of claims - fewer claims means lower rates over time.

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Perfect summary! Thanks for clearing that up. I feel much better about my paycheck now.

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Just want to add that if you're self-employed, you can voluntarily pay into the UI system in Washington to become eligible for benefits. It's not automatic like with regular employees.

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Really? How does that work for freelancers and contractors?

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You have to apply for voluntary coverage with Washington ESD and pay quarterly taxes on your self-employment income. Not many people know about this option.

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my last employer tried to tell me I owed them money for UI taxes when I got laid off, total BS obviously since employers pay it all in washington

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That employer was definitely wrong. You should never owe UI taxes as an employee in Washington. Sounds like they didn't understand the system.

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yeah figured they were trying to scam me or something, glad I checked

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Bottom line: Washington employees don't pay UI taxes, employers do. The amount depends on the employer's experience rating. Benefits are funded entirely by employer contributions to Washington ESD.

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Thanks everyone! This thread really helped me understand how the whole system works.

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Glad we could help clarify the Washington UI tax system for you. It's definitely different from some other states.

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