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Which statements are true regarding Washington ESD unemployment benefits - confused about the rules

I'm totally confused about all the different unemployment rules and requirements in Washington. My friend told me some things about how the system works but I'm not sure what's actually true and what's just rumors. I've been getting different information from different people about job search requirements, how much you can earn while on benefits, appeal processes, etc. Can someone help clarify what's actually accurate? I don't want to mess up my claim by following bad advice.

There's definitely a lot of misinformation floating around about Washington ESD rules. What specific statements are you trying to verify? The most common myths I see are about the job search requirements and how part-time work affects your benefits.

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My friend said you have to apply for 3 jobs every week but someone else told me it's different now. Also heard conflicting things about whether you can work part-time while collecting.

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The job search requirement is currently 3 job search activities per week for most claimants. Part-time work is allowed but gets deducted from your weekly benefit amount.

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I've been through this system multiple times unfortunately. Here are the key facts: You must be able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and report any earnings. The 3 job search activities per week is correct for most people. You can work part-time but anything over $5 per week gets deducted from your benefit.

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Wait, I thought the earnings threshold was higher than $5? That seems really low.

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Nope, it's $5 or 25% of your weekly benefit amount, whichever is greater. So if your weekly benefit is $400, you can earn up to $100 without reduction.

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That sounds helpful! I've been trying to call for days but can never get through.

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Never heard of that service before but honestly anything is better than spending entire days on hold with Washington ESD

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Another thing people get wrong is thinking you can just ignore job search requirements if you're on standby. Even standby claimants usually have to do some job search activities unless they have a definite return-to-work date within 4 weeks.

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What exactly counts as a job search activity? I've been confused about that too.

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Job applications, attending job fairs, networking events, reemployment services appointments, creating/updating resumes on job sites. Has to be verifiable activities.

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The biggest myth I hear is that you lose benefits forever if you make any mistake on your weekly claim. That's not true - most errors can be corrected and overpayments can often be appealed or waived if they weren't your fault.

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That's reassuring. I've been so paranoid about making a mistake.

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Exactly. Washington ESD distinguishes between fraud and honest mistakes. Appeal rights exist for a reason.

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One thing that trips people up is not understanding adjudication. Just because your claim goes into adjudication doesn't mean you did something wrong - it just means they need to review something before approving benefits.

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How long does adjudication usually take? My claim has been pending for over a week.

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Can take anywhere from a few days to several weeks depending on what they're reviewing. Separation issues usually take longer than identity verification.

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Also false: that you can't collect unemployment if you were fired. You can still be eligible if you weren't fired for misconduct. Being laid off, fired for performance issues, or even some policy violations might still qualify you.

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I didn't know that! I thought being fired automatically disqualified you.

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Nope, Washington ESD looks at the specific reason for separation. Misconduct has a pretty specific definition under unemployment law.

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People also think you have to take any job offer you get while on unemployment. Not true - the job has to be suitable based on your skills, experience, and local wage standards. You can refuse unsuitable work.

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What makes a job unsuitable? Like if it pays way less than my previous job?

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Pay, working conditions, distance from home, whether it matches your skills. But the definition of suitable gets broader the longer you're unemployed.

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For anyone struggling to get answers directly from Washington ESD, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. Got me connected to an actual person who could verify all this information and clear up my adjudication issue.

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How much does something like that cost? Sounds too good to be true.

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It's worth checking their site for current pricing. For me it was worth it just to get definitive answers instead of guessing about all these rules.

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Another misconception: that WorkSourceWA registration is optional. It's actually required for most claimants within a certain timeframe. Failure to register can result in benefit denial.

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When do you have to register? I haven't done that yet.

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Usually within the first few weeks of your claim. You should have received information about this when you filed. Check your determination letters.

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Some people think pandemic benefits are still available. PUA, PEUC, and federal unemployment extensions ended in 2021. Only regular state UI is available now unless you qualify for extended benefits during high unemployment periods.

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Good to know. I was wondering if there were still special programs available.

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Yeah those were temporary federal programs. Now it's back to the standard Washington state unemployment insurance program.

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False statement alert: You don't automatically qualify for maximum benefits. Your weekly benefit amount is calculated based on your earnings in your base period, specifically your highest quarter. It's a formula, not a flat rate.

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How do they calculate the exact amount? Mine seemed random.

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It's based on roughly 3.85% of your total base period wages, up to the maximum weekly benefit amount. Washington ESD has a benefit calculator on their website.

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Here's one that got me in trouble: thinking you don't have to report vacation pay or severance. Any compensation from your former employer needs to be reported and will affect your benefits for that week or weeks.

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Even if I already received the severance before filing for unemployment?

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Yes, they allocate it over the period it's supposed to cover. So if you got 4 weeks severance, it affects 4 weeks of potential benefits.

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People think appeals are pointless or too complicated. I successfully appealed a disqualification by gathering my documentation and presenting a clear case. The hearing officer was fair and overturned the decision.

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How long did the appeal process take?

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About 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the decision. You have 30 days to appeal after receiving the determination, so don't wait.

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Myth: You can't collect unemployment if you quit your job. Actually, you can qualify if you quit for good cause, like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job that weren't part of your original agreement.

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What counts as good cause exactly?

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Things like domestic violence, health issues, unsafe work environment, substantial reduction in hours or pay. Washington ESD has specific criteria they evaluate.

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Also not true: that self-employed people can never get unemployment. If you're self-employed but also have W-2 wages in your base period, you might qualify based on those wages.

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That's interesting. I had both freelance work and a part-time W-2 job last year.

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Then you should definitely apply. They'll look at your W-2 wages to determine eligibility. The self-employment income doesn't count toward your base period calculation.

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Just want to emphasize again that getting accurate information directly from Washington ESD is crucial. Using Claimyr to actually talk to someone there helped me avoid making costly mistakes based on bad advice I'd gotten elsewhere.

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Thanks for all this information everyone. I feel much more informed now about what's actually true versus what's just rumors.

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Yeah this thread has been really helpful. So much misinformation out there about unemployment rules.

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One more: people think benefit year and claim year are the same thing. Your benefit year is when you can collect benefits (52 weeks from when you filed). Your claim becomes inactive if you don't file weekly claims, but your benefit year continues.

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So I could restart my claim later in the same benefit year if I found and lost another job?

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Yes, as long as you're still within your benefit year and haven't exhausted all your benefits. You'd need to meet the able and available requirements again.

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Final myth buster: You don't lose your place in line if you go back to work temporarily. If you lose that job within your benefit year and still have benefit weeks remaining, you can restart your claim without filing a whole new application.

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That's good to know. I was worried about taking temporary work.

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Exactly. Washington ESD encourages people to work when they can. Temporary work doesn't hurt your unemployment claim if you lose the job again.

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This has been a great thread for clearing up all the confusion. The key is getting information from reliable sources like Washington ESD directly, not from random people who might not know the current rules.

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Agreed! Thanks everyone for taking the time to share accurate information. This really helped me understand the system better.

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No problem. These rules can be confusing and they do change sometimes, so it's always good to verify with official sources when you're unsure.

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