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Giovanni Rossi

Washington ESD unemployment fired vs quit - does it matter for benefits?

I'm confused about something and need clarification. I left my job last month under questionable circumstances - my boss said I was being terminated but I had already decided to quit because of the hostile work environment. When I filed for unemployment with Washington ESD, I wasn't sure whether to mark it as 'fired' or 'quit' since technically both happened. Does this distinction actually matter for getting approved? I'm worried I might have answered wrong and it could affect my claim. Has anyone dealt with a similar situation?

Yes, it absolutely matters for Washington ESD! The distinction between being fired and quitting determines your eligibility. If you quit without good cause, you'll likely be disqualified. If you were fired for misconduct, same thing. But if you were fired for non-misconduct reasons or quit with good cause (like hostile work environment), you should be eligible.

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Thanks for the clarification! So since there was a hostile work environment, that could count as 'good cause' for quitting?

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Potentially yes, but you'll need documentation to prove it. Washington ESD will want evidence like emails, witness statements, or HR complaints showing the hostile environment.

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I had something similar happen to me. Got fired right after I gave my two weeks notice. Washington ESD treated it as a termination since that's technically what happened last. They still investigated it though.

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How long did the investigation take? I'm worried about how long this might delay my benefits.

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Mine took about 3 weeks for adjudication. Just be honest about what happened and provide any documentation you have.

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Is that service legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my own adjudication issue.

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Documentation is key here!! Keep everything - emails, texts, performance reviews, anything that shows the timeline of events. Washington ESD investigators are pretty thorough.

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I have some emails from my supervisor that were pretty inappropriate. Should I submit those with my weekly claim?

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Save them for when Washington ESD contacts you for the fact-finding interview. They'll tell you exactly what they need.

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Wait, so if you quit you don't get unemployment? That doesn't seem fair if your boss was creating a toxic workplace.

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You can get unemployment if you quit for 'good cause' which includes things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job terms.

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Good to know! I thought quitting automatically disqualified you from benefits.

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Update: I just checked my Washington ESD account and it shows my claim is under adjudication. I guess they're investigating the circumstances around my separation. Hopefully this gets resolved soon.

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Adjudication can take a while but don't panic. They're just making sure they have all the facts before approving your claim.

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Same thing happened to me last year. Took about a month but I eventually got approved and received back pay for the waiting period.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process is so slow!! I've been waiting 5 weeks for them to decide on my separation issue. It's ridiculous how long they take.

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Five weeks is definitely longer than usual. Have you tried calling to check on the status?

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I've tried calling dozens of times but can never get through. The phone system is terrible.

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For what it's worth, Washington ESD tends to side with claimants when there's ambiguity about the separation reason, especially if you can document workplace issues. Just be completely honest in your fact-finding interview.

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That's reassuring. I was worried they'd automatically deny me because of the confusion about whether I quit or was fired.

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They see these mixed situations all the time. What matters most is the underlying reason for the separation, not the exact technicality of who said what first.

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Pro tip: when you do your fact-finding interview, stick to the facts and don't get emotional about your former employer. Washington ESD just wants to know what happened, not how you feel about it.

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This is great advice. I made the mistake of venting during my interview and it probably didn't help my case.

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Yeah, stay professional even if your boss was a complete nightmare. Just state what happened objectively.

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Whatever you do, don't change your story if Washington ESD calls for more information. Consistency is important even if the situation was complicated.

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Good point. I'll make sure to review what I put on my original application before any interviews.

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Exactly. Any contradictions between your application and interview will raise red flags with the adjudicator.

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Just curious - did your employer contest your claim yet? Sometimes they don't respond to Washington ESD's inquiry which can speed up the process.

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I'm not sure how to check that. Is there a way to see if they responded on the Washington ESD website?

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Not directly, but if your adjudication drags on for more than a few weeks, it usually means there's some back-and-forth happening.

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The most important thing is that you filed your claim promptly after separation. Washington ESD is pretty forgiving about the fired vs quit distinction if you have valid reasons either way.

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How promptly do you need to file? I waited about a week after my last day because I wasn't sure I'd qualify.

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A week is fine. They recommend filing within the first week but you won't be penalized for a short delay like that.

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I'm going through something similar right now. My employer claims I abandoned my job but I had to leave due to medical issues. Washington ESD is investigating both sides of the story.

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Medical reasons should definitely qualify as good cause for leaving. Do you have documentation from your doctor?

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Yes, I have medical records showing I couldn't perform my job duties. Hoping that's enough evidence for Washington ESD.

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Try using Claimyr if you need to follow up on your adjudication status. I was able to speak with someone at Washington ESD who explained exactly what they were waiting for in my case. Made the whole process much less stressful.

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Did they give you a timeline for when your decision would be made?

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They said most adjudications are completed within 21 business days, but complex cases can take longer. At least I knew what to expect.

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Bottom line: Washington ESD cares more about WHY the employment ended than the exact mechanics of who initiated the separation. Focus on documenting the hostile work environment and you should be fine.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I feel much more confident about my claim now. I'll just wait for the adjudication to complete and be ready with my documentation if they call.

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Good luck with your claim! Sounds like you have a solid case based on what you've described.

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