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Derek Olson

Washington ESD retirement and unemployment benefits - can I get both?

I'm planning to retire from my job next month but I'm only 58 and won't be able to collect social security for a few more years. Can I file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD after I retire? I've been working for the same company for 22 years and I'm worried about the gap in income. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

The short answer is probably not if you voluntarily retire. Washington ESD requires that you be unemployed through no fault of your own to qualify for benefits. If you choose to retire, that's considered a voluntary quit which would disqualify you.

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That's what I was afraid of. What if my company offers early retirement packages - would that change anything?

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Early retirement packages can be tricky. If it's truly voluntary, it's still considered quitting. But if there are layoffs involved and you're offered the package as an alternative, that might be different.

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I went through something similar last year. The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you're able and available for work. If you're retiring, they'll question whether you're actually looking for new employment or just trying to bridge the gap to social security.

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So even if I said I was looking for work, they'd probably deny my claim?

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They might, especially if you've already announced your retirement. You have to be genuinely available for full-time work and actively job searching.

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Actually, I had a friend who got stuck in this exact situation. He couldn't get through to Washington ESD to even ask about his eligibility. The phone lines are always busy and it took him weeks to get answers. If you really need to talk to someone about your specific situation, I'd recommend checking out claimyr.com - they help people get through to Washington ESD agents. There's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about the specifics of my situation.

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Is that service legit? I've never heard of paying someone to help you call a government agency.

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Yeah it's legitimate. My friend used it and finally got through to an actual person at Washington ESD who could explain his options. Sometimes it's worth it when you can't get through any other way.

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There might be some exceptions depending on your specific circumstances. If your company is downsizing and you're being pushed toward early retirement, or if there are health issues involved, the rules might be different. You really need to speak with Washington ESD directly about your situation.

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There isn't any downsizing happening, it's just me wanting to retire early. Sounds like I'm probably out of luck.

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Don't give up yet! Sometimes there are nuances to these rules that aren't obvious. An actual Washington ESD representative might know about options you haven't considered.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing!! why can't they just have clear answers on their website instead of making everyone call

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I agree the website could be clearer, but retirement vs unemployment is actually pretty straightforward - you can't voluntarily leave work and then claim you're unemployed.

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ok but what if you change your mind after retiring? like what if you realize you need to work again?

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Just to be clear about the requirements - to qualify for Washington ESD unemployment benefits, you must be unemployed through no fault of your own, able to work, available for work, and actively seeking work. Voluntary retirement typically fails the first requirement right away.

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What about people who get laid off close to retirement age? Do they have any special considerations?

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If you're actually laid off, then yes, you could potentially qualify for benefits even if you're close to retirement age, as long as you meet all the other requirements including job searching.

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I remember reading somewhere that there are different rules for people who are partially retired or working part-time after retirement. Maybe that's an option to look into?

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That's interesting - I hadn't thought about partial retirement. I'll have to research that option.

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Partial retirement is different from unemployment benefits though. That's more about continuing to work reduced hours with your current employer.

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My dad went through this exact thing 3 years ago. He wanted to retire at 62 but couldn't afford to wait until full social security. Washington ESD told him flat out that voluntary retirement disqualifies you from unemployment benefits. He ended up working part-time instead until he could collect social security.

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That's probably what I'll have to do too. It's frustrating but I guess it makes sense from their perspective.

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At least your dad got a straight answer! When I tried to call Washington ESD about my situation, I could never get through to talk to a real person.

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - the Washington ESD phone system is notoriously difficult to navigate. Sometimes you really do need to talk to an actual person to understand how the rules apply to your specific situation, especially with something as complex as retirement timing.

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How much does something like that cost though? I'm trying to save money for retirement, not spend it on phone services.

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I don't know the exact cost, but my friend said it was worth it to get definitive answers rather than guessing. Sometimes a clear 'no' is better than wondering if you might qualify.

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Has anyone actually tried applying for unemployment after retiring just to see what happens? I'm curious if Washington ESD would automatically deny it or if they'd investigate further.

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I wouldn't recommend that approach. If you knowingly file a false claim, that could be considered fraud. Better to get the facts first.

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Good point, I wasn't thinking about the fraud angle. Definitely not worth the risk.

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What about if you retire and then look for a different job but can't find one? Would that change your eligibility?

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The issue is still that you voluntarily left your job. Washington ESD doesn't care what happens after you quit - the initial separation is what matters for eligibility.

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That seems harsh but I guess it makes sense. Otherwise everyone could just quit and claim they're looking for work.

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I think the key thing here is timing. If you're being pressured to retire or if your job is being eliminated anyway, that might be different than just deciding you want to stop working.

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Unfortunately my situation is just me wanting to retire. My job isn't going anywhere, I'm just ready to be done working.

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Have you looked into other options like disability benefits if you have any health issues that make working difficult?

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This whole thread is making me realize how complicated retirement planning is. I'm nowhere near retirement age but I should probably start thinking about these gaps now.

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Yes, definitely plan ahead! I wish I had thought about this income gap earlier.

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Smart thinking. The gap between early retirement and social security eligibility is a real problem for a lot of people.

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One more thing to consider - even if you could somehow qualify for unemployment benefits, you'd still have to do the weekly job search requirements. That means applying for jobs and being available for interviews, which kind of defeats the purpose of retiring.

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You're absolutely right. I definitely don't want to be job searching if I'm trying to retire!

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Yeah the job search requirement is no joke. Washington ESD actually checks up on that stuff now.

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My advice would be to talk to a financial planner about bridging the gap to social security rather than trying to make unemployment work. There are probably better options out there.

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That's probably the smart approach. I'll look into other financial options instead of trying to force unemployment to work.

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Agreed. Unemployment is really meant for people who want to work but can't find jobs, not for people who want to stop working entirely.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr suggestion - even if you decide not to pursue unemployment benefits, it might still be worth getting official confirmation from Washington ESD about your situation. That way you'll know for sure and can plan accordingly.

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That's a good point. I'd rather have a definitive answer than just assume I don't qualify.

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Plus if your employment situation changes unexpectedly, you'll already know what your options are.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! It sounds like voluntary retirement and unemployment benefits don't mix, but at least now I know what I'm dealing with. Time to explore other options for covering the gap until social security kicks in.

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Good luck with your retirement planning! It's great that you're thinking this through ahead of time.

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Hope you find a solution that works for your situation. Retirement planning is definitely complicated but you're asking the right questions.

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I'm in a similar boat - considering early retirement but worried about the income gap before I can access my 401k and social security. From what I've learned researching this, Washington ESD is pretty strict about the "involuntary separation" requirement. Even if you're burned out or have health concerns, if you choose to leave rather than being laid off or fired, it's still considered voluntary. One thing I've been looking into is whether there are any bridge insurance options through my employer that might help with healthcare costs during the gap years. That's often one of the biggest expenses people don't think about when planning early retirement.

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