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Dylan Cooper

Can you draw unemployment and social security at the same time in Washington?

I'm 63 and thinking about taking early Social Security next year, but I'm also worried I might lose my job due to company downsizing. If I get laid off, can I still collect Washington ESD unemployment benefits while receiving Social Security? I've heard conflicting information about this and want to make sure I understand the rules before making any decisions about my retirement timing.

Yes, you can receive both unemployment benefits and Social Security in Washington state. The key thing is that your Social Security won't reduce your unemployment benefits, but you still have to meet all the regular UI requirements like being able and available for work and actively seeking employment.

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That's a relief! I was worried they would offset each other. Do I need to report my Social Security income on my weekly claims?

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You should report it on your weekly claim form to be safe, but it shouldn't affect your UI benefit amount. Washington ESD treats Social Security differently than pension income.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago. You can definitely collect both, but make sure you're genuinely looking for work because that's still required for UI benefits. At 63, they can't force you to take jobs that are significantly below your skill level though.

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How did you handle the job search requirements? Did you have any issues with Washington ESD questioning your availability since you're close to retirement age?

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I kept detailed records of my job search activities and never had an issue. The key is being genuinely available for suitable work. Age discrimination is illegal, so Washington ESD can't assume you're not serious about finding work just because you're older.

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Interesting, I'll check that out. I tried calling Washington ESD last week and couldn't get through after an hour of trying.

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I've heard good things about that service too. Sometimes you really need to talk to a human to get clear answers on these complicated eligibility questions.

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Wait, I thought there was some rule about being available for work if you're collecting Social Security? My neighbor said she couldn't get unemployment because she was already retired on Social Security.

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Your neighbor might have been confused or had a different situation. Simply receiving Social Security doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. The issue is whether you're able and available for work, not whether you're receiving Social Security.

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Oh okay, that makes sense. I'll let her know in case she wants to reapply if she gets laid off again.

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This is actually a pretty common situation with baby boomers. The main thing Washington ESD cares about is that you're genuinely seeking work and available to accept suitable employment. Your Social Security status doesn't change that requirement.

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Good to know it's common. I was feeling like I was in some weird gray area that nobody else dealt with.

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Not at all! Lots of people bridge the gap between layoffs and full retirement this way. Just make sure you understand what 'suitable work' means for someone with your experience level.

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I'm curious about the timing aspect - if you're planning to take Social Security next year anyway, does it matter when you apply for it versus when you might file for unemployment?

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That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out! I'm wondering if I should wait to apply for Social Security until I actually need it or if there's an advantage to applying earlier.

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From a financial planning perspective, that's really a separate question from the unemployment eligibility. You might want to talk to a financial advisor about the Social Security timing decision.

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Just want to add that you still need to register with WorkSource Washington and do your job search activities even if you're getting Social Security. The work search requirements don't change based on your age or other income sources.

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Thanks for the reminder about WorkSource. I'll make sure to get registered there if I end up needing to file for unemployment.

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Yeah, it's one of those things that trips people up sometimes. They think other income sources might change the requirements, but Washington ESD is pretty consistent about the work search rules.

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Does anyone know if the amount of Social Security you receive affects your weekly unemployment benefit amount? I know some other types of income can reduce your UI benefits.

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Social Security retirement benefits don't reduce your unemployment benefits in Washington. It's treated differently than pension payments or severance pay. You can receive the full amount of both.

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That's great news! I was worried there might be some complicated offset calculation.

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I've been in a similar situation and had to call Washington ESD multiple times to get clear answers. If you do need to reach them, calling right when they open at 8 AM seems to work best, but even then it can take forever to get through.

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Yeah, I've heard the phone lines are always busy. Did you ever try any of those callback services that were mentioned earlier?

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I actually used Claimyr after someone here recommended it. Worked really well - I got through to an agent the same day instead of spending hours on hold.

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you do get laid off and file for unemployment, you'll need to report that you're actively seeking work that's suitable for someone with your background. Don't feel like you have to take any job just because you're older.

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That's a good point. I have 30+ years of management experience and wouldn't want to feel pressured to take entry-level positions just to satisfy the work search requirements.

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Exactly. Washington ESD understands that suitable work for someone with your experience level is different than for someone just starting their career. Document your search efforts well and you should be fine.

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This thread has been really helpful! I'm 64 and was wondering about the same thing. Nice to know I have options if my company decides to do layoffs next year.

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Glad it helped you too! It's good to know we're not alone in this situation.

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Definitely. I think a lot of people our age are dealing with this kind of uncertainty about employment and retirement timing.

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Just to clarify one more time - there's no offset between Social Security and unemployment benefits in Washington state, right? I want to make sure I understand this correctly.

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Correct, no offset. You can receive the full amount of both Social Security retirement benefits and unemployment insurance benefits simultaneously in Washington.

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Perfect, thanks for confirming that!

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Has anyone had experience with how this works for taxes? Do you end up paying taxes on both the Social Security and unemployment benefits?

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Yes, unemployment benefits are fully taxable, and depending on your total income, your Social Security benefits might be partially taxable too. You'll want to talk to a tax professional about the specifics.

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Thanks, I'll definitely need to plan for that if I end up in this situation.

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The main thing is just being honest about your situation when you file your weekly claims. Report all income sources and let Washington ESD make the determination about how it affects your benefits.

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Good advice. I'd rather be transparent and avoid any issues down the road.

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Exactly. It's much better to over-report than to have problems later if they audit your claim.

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I'm glad someone asked this question because I was wondering the same thing but wasn't sure where to get reliable information about it.

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Yeah, it's one of those situations that I think a lot of people face but don't know who to ask about.

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Especially with all the changes in the economy and people working longer before retiring. This kind of flexibility is really important.

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If you do end up needing to file for unemployment, make sure you have all your documentation ready - W-2s, pay stubs, etc. The process goes much smoother when you're prepared.

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Good tip! I'll make sure to keep everything organized just in case.

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Yeah, having everything ready ahead of time really helps avoid delays in processing your claim.

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This has been a really informative discussion. It's reassuring to know that there are options if you're between jobs in your 60s while also planning for retirement.

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Absolutely! I feel much more confident about my situation now. Thanks everyone for all the helpful information.

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You're welcome! It's great when people can share their experiences and help each other navigate these complex situations.

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One last thing - if you do have to call Washington ESD and can't get through, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical at first but it saved me hours of trying to get through on my own.

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I'm definitely going to bookmark that for future reference. Thanks for the recommendation!

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No problem! Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to get clear answers on complicated situations like this.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed information I was hoping to find! I'm in a similar situation at 62 and my company has been dropping hints about potential layoffs. It's really helpful to see so many people confirm that you can collect both benefits simultaneously in Washington. I've been putting off making decisions about Social Security timing because I wasn't sure how it would interact with unemployment if I needed it. Now I feel like I can make a more informed choice about my retirement planning. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!

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