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Is unemployment compensation considered earned income for Washington ESD benefits?

I'm trying to figure out if my unemployment benefits count as earned income when I'm filling out other forms. I've been getting UI payments from Washington ESD for about 2 months now and need to know how to report this on various applications. Some places ask for 'earned income' and I'm not sure if unemployment compensation falls into that category or if it's considered something else entirely. Has anyone dealt with this before?

Unemployment compensation is generally NOT considered earned income. It's classified as unearned income because you're not actively working for it. Earned income specifically refers to wages, salaries, tips, commissions - money you get from actual employment. Your UI benefits are considered taxable income but not earned income.

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Thanks! That makes sense. So when forms ask for earned income I should leave the unemployment part blank?

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Exactly. But always read the form carefully because some will ask for 'all income' or 'total income' which would include your UI benefits.

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yeah this confused me too when i was on unemployment last year. most government forms have separate sections for earned vs unearned income and unemployment goes in the unearned section

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Good to know I'm not the only one who found this confusing!

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The IRS treats unemployment compensation as taxable income but not earned income for tax purposes. This distinction matters for things like the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) - you can't use unemployment benefits to qualify for EITC since it requires actual earned income from work.

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Wait, so does that mean I might not qualify for certain tax credits while I'm collecting unemployment?

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It depends on the specific credit. Some require earned income, others just require you to meet income thresholds regardless of the source.

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For most purposes, unemployment is unearned income. But be careful with applications for assistance programs - some have specific rules about how they count unemployment benefits. Always read the definitions section of any form you're filling out.

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That's a good point about reading the definitions. I'll make sure to do that.

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had this same question when applying for food stamps. they counted my UI as income but not earned income. made a difference in the calculation

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Interesting, so it can affect eligibility for assistance programs?

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yeah it counts toward your total income but since its not earned income the work requirements were different

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Just to clarify further - the technical distinction is that earned income comes from active participation in work or business. Unemployment compensation is a government benefit based on your previous work history, but you're not currently earning it through labor.

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So if I do some part-time work while collecting unemployment, that part-time work would be earned income but the UI benefits still wouldn't be?

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Correct! Your part-time wages would be earned income, and you'd need to report those to Washington ESD for your weekly claims.

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The confusion comes from the fact that unemployment IS taxable income, so people assume it's the same as earned income. But the tax code makes this distinction for various credits and calculations.

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Yeah, that's exactly where I got confused. Taxable doesn't automatically mean earned.

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I work at an accounting firm and see this question a lot during tax season. Unemployment shows up on your 1099-G form and goes on your tax return, but it's not earned income for EITC, child tax credit calculations, or IRA contribution purposes.

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So if I only had unemployment income last year, I couldn't contribute to an IRA?

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Right, IRA contributions require earned income. Unemployment benefits alone wouldn't qualify you to make IRA contributions.

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this is why i hate dealing with government paperwork. everything has these weird technical definitions that dont match what normal people think the words mean

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Tell me about it! Half the time I need a lawyer just to fill out basic forms.

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For Washington state specifically, unemployment compensation is considered income for most state programs but not earned income. This matters for things like Working Connections Child Care and other assistance programs that have work requirements.

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Good to know about the state-specific implications. Thanks!

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Been dealing with this exact issue while trying to qualify for certain programs. The caseworker explained that unemployment shows you had a work history but you're not currently earning through work, hence unearned income.

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That's actually a really clear way to think about it - it's based on past work but not current work.

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I remember being so frustrated trying to get clarification on this from Washington ESD directly. Someone mentioned Claimyr earlier - I used them too and it was amazing how quickly they got me through to an actual representative who could explain these distinctions clearly.

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The bottom line is: unemployment = taxable income but NOT earned income. Keep that distinction in mind for any forms or applications you fill out.

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Perfect summary, thank you!

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also remember that if you do any work while collecting UI, you need to report those earnings on your weekly claim even though it might reduce your benefit amount

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Yeah, Washington ESD is pretty strict about reporting all work and earnings.

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This thread has been super helpful! I was making the same assumption that taxable income meant earned income. Glad I found this before filling out my forms wrong.

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Same here! Really appreciate everyone's input on this.

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One thing to add - if you're collecting unemployment and considering going back to school, some financial aid calculations treat unemployment differently than earned income too. Worth checking with the financial aid office.

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Good point! I've been thinking about taking some classes while I'm unemployed.

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For anyone still confused about this stuff, I had luck using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Got connected to Washington ESD and the rep walked me through how different types of income are classified. Much clearer than trying to figure it out from their website.

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I might have to try that. Their website is so confusing for this kind of detailed question.

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Thanks everyone for clearing this up. I feel much more confident about filling out my forms now knowing unemployment is unearned income, not earned income.

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Exactly! This thread saved me from potentially making mistakes on important paperwork.

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Great discussion! Just remember the key point: unemployment compensation = unearned income for most purposes, even though it's still taxable. Always double-check the specific definitions on whatever form you're completing.

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Perfect advice to end on. When in doubt, read the definitions carefully!

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