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Malik Thomas

Is unemployment compensation earned income for Washington ESD benefits?

I'm filling out some financial paperwork and they're asking about earned vs unearned income. I've been getting Washington ESD unemployment benefits for about 6 weeks now and I'm not sure how to classify it. Is unemployment compensation considered earned income or unearned income? I don't want to mess up my application by putting it in the wrong category. Anyone know the official classification?

Unemployment compensation is generally considered unearned income, not earned income. Earned income typically refers to wages, salaries, tips, and self-employment income from active work. Since unemployment benefits are paid when you're not working, they fall into the unearned category.

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That makes sense, thank you! I was leaning toward unearned but wanted to be sure.

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This is good to know, I've been wondering the same thing for my tax prep

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For most purposes, Washington ESD unemployment benefits are unearned income. However, depending on what form you're filling out, there might be specific instructions. Some applications have a separate category just for unemployment benefits. What type of paperwork are you completing?

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It's for a rental application. They have earned income, unearned income, and government benefits as separate categories.

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In that case, I'd put it under government benefits since that's the most specific category. Unemployment definitely qualifies as a government benefit.

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I had this exact question when I was dealing with getting benefits sorted out. The phone lines at Washington ESD were impossible to get through to ask anyone directly. I ended up using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually reach an agent who confirmed unemployment is unearned income for most official purposes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works - saved me hours of calling.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but might be worth trying. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my claim status.

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Yeah it's pretty straightforward to use. Much better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.

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depends on the context but 99% of the time its unearned. earned income is from actual work

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Right, that's what I figured. Thanks for confirming!

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For tax purposes, unemployment benefits are taxable income but still classified as unearned. You'll get a 1099-G form from Washington ESD showing the total amount you received during the tax year. Make sure to report it on your tax return.

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Wait, so we have to pay taxes on unemployment? That seems backwards.

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Yes, unemployment benefits are taxable at the federal level and in Washington state there's no state income tax anyway. You can choose to have taxes withheld from your weekly payments or pay when you file.

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I work in accounting and can confirm - unemployment compensation is definitely unearned income. It's passive income that you receive without performing current work services. Earned income requires active participation in work or business activities.

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Perfect, thank you for the professional perspective!

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This is super helpful. I've been categorizing it wrong on some forms apparently.

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Had to deal with this when applying for food stamps too. The case worker told me unemployment goes under unearned income on their forms. Different agencies might have slightly different categories but the basic classification stays the same.

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Good to know it's consistent across different programs. That makes it easier to remember.

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Just went through this with my mortgage refinance paperwork. Lender classified my Washington ESD benefits as unearned income. They wanted 3 months of payment history to verify the income stream.

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How did that work out? Did they accept unemployment as stable income for the refi?

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They were hesitant at first but accepted it since I had documentation showing my benefit period. Not ideal but it worked.

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THE SYSTEM IS SO CONFUSING! Why can't they just make this stuff clear on the Washington ESD website instead of making us guess?? I've been searching for this answer for days

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I feel you on this. The website could definitely be clearer about a lot of things.

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You're right that it could be explained better. Most of the time the classification depends on the specific form or program you're dealing with.

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For anyone still wondering - I just called Washington ESD yesterday using that Claimyr service someone mentioned and the agent confirmed unemployment benefits are unearned income for pretty much every purpose. Much easier than trying to get through on my own.

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How much does Claimyr cost? Might be worth it if it actually works.

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I'm not sure about pricing but it was definitely worth it to get a straight answer from an actual Washington ESD agent instead of guessing.

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been getting unemployment for 4 months now and always put it as unearned income on everything. never had any issues or questions about it

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That's reassuring, thanks for sharing your experience!

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My tax preparer explained this to me last year - unemployment is unearned because you're not actively working for it. It's a replacement for earned income but not earned income itself. Makes sense when you think about it that way.

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That's a good way to think about it. Replacement income vs earned income.

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Yeah that's a helpful way to remember the distinction.

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I had the same question when I was on unemployment last year. Called Washington ESD probably 50 times before I finally got through to someone. They confirmed it's unearned income. Wish I had known about services like Claimyr back then to save myself the headache.

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50 times?? That's insane. The phone system there is seriously broken.

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Tell me about it. Hours and hours of my life I'll never get back just trying to ask one simple question.

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Check the specific instructions on whatever form you're filling out. Most of the time unemployment goes under unearned income but some forms have separate categories for government benefits or transfer payments. When in doubt, unearned income is usually safe.

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Good advice about checking the specific form instructions. I'll make sure to read those carefully.

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This thread is so helpful! I've been putting unemployment in different categories on different forms because I wasn't sure. Good to know it should consistently be unearned income.

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Same here! I've been inconsistent about it and that probably looks confusing on my applications.

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At least now we all know for future reference!

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Former Washington ESD employee here (retired). Unemployment benefits are definitely classified as unearned income. The benefits are designed to partially replace earned income while you search for work, but the benefits themselves are not considered earned since no work is performed to receive them.

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Wow, thanks for the official inside perspective! That clears it up completely.

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That's awesome having someone with actual Washington ESD experience chime in. Super helpful!

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Just to add one more confirmation - I work for a nonprofit that helps people with benefits applications and we always categorize unemployment as unearned income. It's consistent across pretty much every program and form we deal with.

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Thank you! It's great to have multiple professional confirmations.

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been wondering about this too for my food stamp recertification coming up. sounds like unearned income is definitely the way to go based on everyone's responses here

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Yeah this thread has been super informative. Glad someone asked the question!

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