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Gianna Scott

Is unemployment earned income or unearned income for Washington ESD benefits?

I'm really confused about how to classify my unemployment benefits when filling out forms. Some documents ask about earned vs unearned income and I'm not sure which category my Washington ESD payments fall into. I've been getting weekly UI payments for about 6 weeks now and need to fill out some financial paperwork but don't want to mess it up. Does anyone know if unemployment benefits count as earned or unearned income? This is stressing me out because I don't want to make mistakes on official forms.

Alfredo Lugo

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Unemployment benefits are generally considered unearned income for most purposes. You didn't work to earn those specific payments - they're based on your past work history but the actual weekly payments are insurance benefits.

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Gianna Scott

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That makes sense, thank you! So even though I had to work in the past to qualify, the actual UI payments themselves are unearned?

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Alfredo Lugo

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Exactly! The work you did before established your eligibility, but the weekly benefit payments are insurance, not wages for current work.

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Sydney Torres

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For tax purposes unemployment is definitely unearned income. Washington ESD will send you a 1099-G form at tax time showing your total benefits received. It's taxable but classified as unearned income on your tax return.

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Wait, I thought unemployment wasn't taxed in Washington since we don't have state income tax?

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Sydney Torres

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Washington state doesn't tax it, but the federal government does. You'll still owe federal taxes on your UI benefits.

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Gianna Scott

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Good to know about the 1099-G! I'll watch for that next year.

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Rhett Bowman

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depends on what form you're filling out tbh. some forms might classify it differently. what kind of paperwork are you doing?

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Gianna Scott

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It's for a rental application and some financial aid forms. They both ask about earned vs unearned income separately.

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Rhett Bowman

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yeah for those it's definitely unearned. they want to know about wages vs benefits/assistance

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Abigail Patel

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I had the same confusion last year! For every form I've filled out, unemployment goes in the unearned income section. Banks, apartments, government forms - they all treat UI benefits as unearned income.

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Gianna Scott

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this. Did you have any issues with any of the applications?

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Abigail Patel

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Nope, never had a problem. As long as you report it honestly in the unearned section you should be fine.

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The way I think about it is earned income = you worked for it recently, unearned income = you didn't work for it currently (like benefits, interest, etc). So unemployment is unearned even though you had to work in the past to qualify.

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Daniel White

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That's a good way to explain it. Makes it easier to remember for different forms.

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Gianna Scott

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Yeah that distinction helps a lot, thanks!

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Nolan Carter

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Just be careful because some forms might have specific definitions. Most of the time it's unearned but if you're unsure about a particular form it's worth asking whoever issued it.

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Gianna Scott

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Good point. I'll double check if the forms have their own definitions listed anywhere.

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Natalia Stone

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Been on unemployment twice and it's always gone under unearned income for me. Never had anyone question it or ask me to change it.

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Gianna Scott

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Thanks for sharing your experience. That gives me more confidence about how to fill these out.

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Tasia Synder

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I work at a nonprofit that helps people with financial paperwork and we always tell clients to put unemployment benefits under unearned income. It's the standard classification across all the forms we see.

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Gianna Scott

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Oh that's really helpful to hear from someone who sees this regularly. Thank you!

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That's good insider knowledge. Do you see people make this mistake often?

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Tasia Synder

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Yeah it's pretty common confusion. People think since they worked to qualify it must be earned income, but the classification is about the current payments, not past work.

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For what it's worth, when I applied for food stamps they specifically told me unemployment goes under unearned income on their forms. Seems pretty consistent across different agencies.

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Gianna Scott

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That's another good data point. Sounds like it's pretty universal.

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Ellie Perry

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Quick question - do you know if the job search requirement affects how it's classified? Like since we have to look for work?

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Alfredo Lugo

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No, the job search requirement doesn't change the classification. You're looking for future work, but the current benefits are still unearned income.

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Ellie Perry

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Makes sense, thanks for clarifying that!

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Landon Morgan

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I remember being confused about this too when I first started getting benefits. The Washington ESD website has some info about it if you want to double check, though it can be hard to find specific pages sometimes.

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Gianna Scott

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I tried looking on their website but couldn't find anything specific about this classification. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.

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Teresa Boyd

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Another thing to keep in mind is that if you do any part-time work while on unemployment, those wages would be earned income that you report separately from your UI benefits.

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Gianna Scott

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Good point! I'm not working part-time right now but that's good to know for the future.

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Lourdes Fox

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Yeah you have to report any work to Washington ESD when you file your weekly claims too.

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Bruno Simmons

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I used Claimyr recently to get through to someone at Washington ESD about a different question and they confirmed unemployment is unearned income when I asked. The agent was really helpful once I actually got connected.

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Gianna Scott

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That's great that you were able to get official confirmation! I might try that service if I have other questions.

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Caleb Bell

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This thread is really helpful! I was wondering about the same thing for my mortgage refinance paperwork. Sounds like unearned income is definitely the way to go.

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Gianna Scott

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Glad this helped you too! It seems like we're all dealing with similar confusion about this.

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Zane Gray

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Just to add one more confirmation - my accountant told me unemployment is unearned income for tax purposes and that's how it should be reported on other forms too. Seems like everyone's on the same page about this.

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Gianna Scott

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Perfect, that gives me the confidence I needed to fill out these forms. Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses!

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