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Is unemployment considered earned income for Washington ESD tax purposes?

I'm trying to figure out if my Washington ESD unemployment benefits count as earned income when I file my taxes. I received about $18,000 in UI benefits last year and I'm not sure how to categorize this on my tax forms. Does anyone know if Washington state unemployment is considered earned income or unearned income? I'm also wondering if this affects my eligibility for certain tax credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit. Any help would be appreciated!

Unemployment benefits are NOT considered earned income for tax purposes. They're classified as unearned income by the IRS. This means they won't qualify you for the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) or other credits that require earned income. You should receive a 1099-G form from Washington ESD showing your total benefits received.

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Thanks for clarifying! I was hoping they would count as earned income for the EITC. So I'll need to report them as regular income but they won't help with those specific credits?

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Exactly right. Report them as income on your 1040 but they won't count toward earned income requirements for credits.

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wait i thought all income was the same for taxes?? this is confusing

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There are different types of income for tax purposes - earned income (wages, self-employment), unearned income (unemployment, interest, dividends), and others. Each type has different rules and affects different credits differently.

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oh wow never knew that, thanks for explaining

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I had the same question last year! The key thing to remember is that unemployment benefits are fully taxable as regular income, but they're not subject to Social Security or Medicare taxes. Make sure you either had taxes withheld from your benefits or set aside money to pay taxes on them.

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Good point about setting aside money. I didn't have taxes withheld so I'll need to be prepared for that tax bill.

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Yeah I learned that the hard way my first year on unemployment. Owed like $2000 in taxes because I didn't withhold anything.

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Here's the breakdown for tax purposes: Unemployment benefits are unearned income, fully taxable at federal level (and state level if your state has income tax). They're not earned income so no EITC eligibility. You should receive Form 1099-G from Washington ESD by January 31st showing total benefits paid.

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Perfect summary, thank you! I'll watch for that 1099-G form.

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What if I never received my 1099-G? My address changed during the year.

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UGH this whole system is so complicated!! Why can't they just make it simple - income is income right?? Now I have to figure out what counts as what kind of income and it's giving me a headache.

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I know it's frustrating, but the different categories exist because they're treated differently for Social Security, Medicare, and various tax credits. It's worth understanding the distinctions.

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totally agree its way too confusing for regular people

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For what it's worth, I always tell people to consult with a tax professional if they're unsure. Unemployment benefits can affect your tax situation in ways you might not expect, especially if you had other income during the year or qualify for certain credits.

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Good advice. I might need to do that since I had some freelance work too during the year.

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Yeah mixing unemployment with self-employment income can get tricky for taxes.

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One thing that caught me off guard - if you received unemployment benefits and then got a job later in the year, make sure your employer knows about the unemployment income when calculating withholdings. Otherwise you might not have enough taxes withheld from your paychecks.

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Oh that's a really good point! I did get a job in November so I should probably adjust my withholdings.

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Yes definitely talk to HR or payroll about adjusting your W-4 if you received significant unemployment benefits earlier in the year.

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Can confirm unemployment is unearned income. Been through this multiple times unfortunately. The IRS is very clear about this distinction. Also worth noting that if you repaid any unemployment benefits during the year, you can deduct those repayments.

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Wait, you can deduct repayments? I had to pay back some benefits due to an overpayment issue.

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Yes, if you repaid unemployment benefits in the same tax year you received them, you can usually deduct the repayment. Check IRS Publication 525 for details.

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This is exactly why I always have them withhold taxes from my unemployment benefits. I learned my lesson the first time when I got hit with a big tax bill. Now I just treat it like regular income for budgeting purposes.

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That's smart. I'll definitely do that if I ever need to file for unemployment again.

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Same here, I always withhold the full 10% federal tax option when I file my weekly claims.

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Just want to add that the 1099-G form will show your total benefits for the year, but if you had taxes withheld, that will be shown separately. Don't forget to include any withholdings when you file your return.

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Good reminder! I'll make sure to look for both pieces of information on the form.

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Yes the withholdings are in a separate box on the 1099-G. Easy to miss if you're not looking for it.

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The whole earned vs unearned income thing affects more than just taxes too. It can impact things like food stamps, housing assistance, and other benefits. Always good to understand the distinction.

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That's a really good point. Different programs have different rules about what counts as income.

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yeah i found out unemployment affected my food stamps differently than i expected

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For anyone still confused about this - think of it this way: earned income is money you get from working (wages, tips, self-employment). Unearned income is money you get from other sources (unemployment benefits, interest, dividends, etc.). Each type is taxed differently and affects different credits and benefits differently.

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That's actually a really helpful way to think about it. Makes the distinction much clearer.

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Thanks for breaking it down in simple terms! This helps a lot.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info! I feel much more confident about handling this on my tax return now. The distinction between earned and unearned income makes sense now that it's been explained clearly.

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Same here! This thread has been super helpful. Good luck with your taxes!

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Glad we could help clear things up. Tax season is stressful enough without being confused about the basics.

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