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Ravi Sharma

How to collect Washington ESD unemployment if fired - need guidance

Lost my job last week after working at a manufacturing plant for 2 years. My supervisor said I was terminated for 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I complained about unsafe working conditions. Can I still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD if I was fired? I've never been through this process before and I'm really stressed about paying my bills. What do I need to know about applying?

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate whether the termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't qualify as misconduct unless they were willful or repeated violations after warnings. You should file your claim immediately - benefits can be backdated but there are time limits.

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Thank you! Should I mention the safety complaints when I file? I have documentation of the issues I reported.

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Absolutely include that information. It could be relevant if your employer tries to contest your claim by saying you were fired for misconduct.

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File online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment history for the past 18 months. The system will ask specific questions about why you were terminated - be honest and detailed in your answers.

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Do I need to wait for any paperwork from my employer before filing?

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No, don't wait. File immediately. Washington ESD will contact your employer separately to get their side of the story.

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How much does that service cost? I'm already tight on money after losing my job.

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WASHINGTON ESD WILL PROBABLY DENY YOU FIRST TIME ANYWAY! They always side with employers. My friend got fired for 'attitude problems' and they said it was misconduct even though he was just standing up for himself. The system is rigged against workers.

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That's not accurate. Washington ESD approves the majority of claims, even for people who were terminated. Each case is evaluated individually based on the specific circumstances.

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Maybe your right but I've seen too many people get screwed over. Just saying don't get your hopes up.

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The key thing is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues, attendance problems, or just not being a good fit usually don't count as misconduct. Misconduct has to be willful violation of company policy or something that shows you deliberately disregarded your job duties. Safety complaints actually protect you in many cases.

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This is really helpful. I was never written up for anything before this happened, and I have emails showing I reported safety issues.

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That documentation will be very important if your employer contests the claim. Keep all of that organized.

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same thing happened to me but it was retail not manufacturing. got fired for being 'difficult' after I complained about schedule changes. Still got my benefits approved after like 3 weeks of waiting

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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filed on monday, got approved the following friday, first payment came the week after that. wasn't too bad once it got going

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One important thing - you'll need to serve a waiting week before you can start receiving benefits. This means your first week of unemployment won't be paid, but you still need to file that weekly claim to establish your claim. After that, you'll file weekly claims every Sunday for the previous week.

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Wait, so I won't get paid for the first week even if I'm approved?

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Correct. The waiting week is unpaid, but you still must file that weekly claim. Payments start from the second week if you're approved.

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Make sure you're actively looking for work too. Washington ESD requires you to make job search contacts every week and keep a log. I think it's 3 contacts per week now? You'll need to report this when you file your weekly claims.

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It's actually 3 job search activities per week, and they can include more than just applying for jobs. Attending job fairs, networking events, or career counseling sessions count too.

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Good to know! I wasn't sure about the details since I haven't needed to file in a while.

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Don't let your employer intimidate you into not filing. I almost didn't apply because my boss told me I wouldn't qualify since I was 'fired for cause.' Turns out being late a few times isn't misconduct and I got approved. They're required to provide you with information about filing for unemployment when they terminate you.

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My employer didn't give me any information about unemployment. Should they have?

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Yes, they're supposed to give you a pamphlet or at least tell you about your right to file. But don't worry about that now - just focus on getting your claim filed.

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If you do run into issues getting through to Washington ESD, seriously consider using Claimyr. I know I mentioned it before but it really helped me when I was dealing with complications after being terminated. The system is designed to handle the high call volume that makes it impossible to reach agents normally.

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Is this just for getting through on the phone or do they help with other parts of the process?

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It's specifically for getting connected to Washington ESD agents when you need to speak with someone. Really useful when you have questions about your specific situation that the website can't answer.

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The whole unemployment system is so confusing. I got fired from my last job too and it took forever to figure out what I was supposed to do. The Washington ESD website has a lot of information but it's hard to navigate when you're stressed about money.

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The 'Unemployment Benefits Handbook' on their website is actually pretty comprehensive once you know where to find it. Has step-by-step instructions for most situations.

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I'll have to look for that. I mostly just stumbled around the site trying to figure things out.

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File your claim this week if you can. Even if there are issues or your employer contests it, you want to get the process started. Washington ESD can take time to investigate and make decisions, so the sooner you file, the better.

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I was planning to file tomorrow. Is there a best time of day to use the website?

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Early morning or late evening tend to be less busy. The site can be slow during peak hours when everyone is trying to file their weekly claims.

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this is probably a dumb question but do you have to be completely unemployed to get benefits? I might be able to pick up some part time work while I look for something full time

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You can work part-time and still receive partial unemployment benefits. You just need to report any earnings when you file your weekly claims, and your benefit amount will be reduced accordingly.

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ok good to know! wasn't sure if working at all would disqualify me completely

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Keep records of everything related to your termination. If your employer provided any documentation about why you were fired, keep copies. If they contest your claim, Washington ESD will want to see evidence from both sides.

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I have the termination letter and my emails about the safety issues. Should I scan these and keep digital copies?

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Yes, definitely keep both physical and digital copies. You might need to upload documents to your Washington ESD account during the process.

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I went through this exact same thing 6 months ago. Got fired for 'performance' but really it was retaliation for filing a workers comp claim. Washington ESD approved my benefits after about 2 weeks. The employer tried to contest it but couldn't prove misconduct. Don't give up if they initially deny you - you can appeal.

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How long do you have to appeal if they deny your claim?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait if you disagree with their decision.

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just wanted to say hang in there. losing your job is stressful enough without worrying about whether you'll get benefits. most people who get fired for non-misconduct reasons do get approved eventually

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Thank you, I really appreciate the encouragement. This whole situation has been really overwhelming.

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totally understand. it gets better once you get through the initial process and know where you stand

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One more tip - when you file your initial claim, be very detailed in explaining the circumstances of your termination. Don't just say 'performance issues.' Explain exactly what happened, mention the safety complaints, and be clear that you weren't willfully violating any policies.

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Should I mention that I think the firing was retaliation for the safety complaints?

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Yes, absolutely. That context is important for Washington ESD to understand the real reason behind your termination.

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Just to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I ended up needing to use it again when I had questions about my job search requirements. It's really handy when you need to talk to someone who can look at your specific account and give you accurate information instead of just general advice.

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I've been thinking about trying that. The phone system for Washington ESD is impossible - I've tried calling probably 20 times and never gotten through.

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That's exactly why I started using it. The regular phone system is basically unusable when you actually need help.

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Bottom line - file your claim ASAP and don't let anyone tell you that you can't get benefits just because you were fired. Let Washington ESD make that determination based on the facts. Most terminations don't involve misconduct, even if the employer tries to make it sound worse than it was.

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This thread has been so helpful. I'm going to file my claim first thing tomorrow morning. Thank you everyone for all the advice and support!

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Good luck! Remember that even if there are bumps in the process, most people do get their benefits approved. Stay persistent and don't hesitate to ask for help when you need it.

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