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Gabrielle Dubois

How long does the unemployment appeal process take with Washington ESD?

Filed my appeal with Washington ESD three weeks ago after getting denied for my UI claim. They said I was fired for misconduct but that's not true - I was laid off due to budget cuts. The appeal confirmation letter just says it can take 'several weeks' but doesn't give any real timeframe. Anyone know how long these appeals actually take to get scheduled and decided? I'm running out of savings and need to know if I should look for other options.

Appeal hearings in Washington typically take 6-8 weeks from when you file to get scheduled. After the hearing, the Administrative Law Judge has 30 days to issue a decision. So you're looking at 2-3 months total for the whole process.

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That's way longer than I expected! Is there any way to speed it up or get priority scheduling?

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Not really, they go in order of when appeals were filed. The only exception is if you can prove financial hardship but even then it's rare.

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mine took 2 months last year, hearing was over the phone and lasted about 45 minutes. make sure you have all your documentation ready

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What kind of documentation did you need? I have my termination letter but not much else.

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termination letter is good, also any emails about the layoff, company memos about budget cuts, anything showing it wasn't misconduct

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The waiting is the worst part honestly. I've been through this process twice and both times it felt like forever. One thing that helped me was using Claimyr to actually get through to Washington ESD to check on my appeal status. Their site is claimyr.com and they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me hours of trying to call myself.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually work for getting through to a real person?

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Yeah, they handle all the calling and waiting for you. Got me connected to an adjudicator who could actually tell me where my appeal was in the queue.

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Interesting, might try that myself. The Washington ESD phone lines are impossible to get through on.

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APPEAL PROCESS IS A JOKE! Been waiting 10 weeks for mine and still no hearing date. They're understaffed and don't care about people struggling to pay bills. Washington ESD is broken.

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10 weeks?! That's horrible. Did you try calling to check on it?

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TRIED CALLING 50+ TIMES. Either busy signal or they hang up after 2 hours on hold. System is designed to make you give up.

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I understand the frustration but 10 weeks is unusually long. There might be an issue with your appeal paperwork or it got lost in the system.

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Wait, I'm confused. I thought appeals were automatic if you got denied? Do you have to file something separate? My claim got denied last week and I haven't done anything yet.

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NO, appeals are not automatic! You have to file an appeal within 30 days of your denial notice. Check your denial letter for the appeal form or file online through your SecureAccess Washington account.

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Oh no! I better do that today then. Thanks for the heads up!

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Yeah don't wait, that 30 day deadline is strict. I almost missed mine because I didn't realize it wasn't automatic either.

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The appeal process varies a lot depending on your case type. Misconduct cases like yours often take longer because they're more complex. My friend had a simple eligibility issue and her appeal was resolved in 4 weeks.

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That makes sense. Mine involves reviewing my entire employment history and the circumstances around my termination.

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Exactly. The ALJ has to review all the evidence from both sides. More complex cases need more time for preparation and review.

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just wanted to say good luck with your appeal! misconduct denials are often overturned if you have good documentation. don't give up!

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Thanks for the encouragement! I really need to win this appeal.

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One more thing - make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during the appeal process. If you win, you'll get backpay for all those weeks, but only if you kept filing.

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Really? I stopped filing because I thought there was no point since I was denied.

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Big mistake! You need to keep filing to preserve your right to those benefits. Start filing again immediately, even if you're not getting paid yet.

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This is absolutely correct. Many people lose out on thousands in backpay because they stopped filing during appeals.

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I work for a law firm that handles unemployment appeals. Average timeline we see is 8-12 weeks from filing to decision. Washington ESD is actually faster than most states, believe it or not.

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That's somewhat reassuring I guess. Do you recommend people get lawyers for these appeals?

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For complex cases or if substantial money is involved, yes. But many people successfully represent themselves, especially for straightforward layoff situations.

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The hearing itself was actually pretty fair when I had mine. The ALJ asked good questions and really listened to both sides. It's the waiting that kills you.

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That's good to hear. I'm nervous about the hearing but hopefully the judge will see my side.

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Just be honest and stick to the facts. Don't get emotional even if your former employer lies or exaggerates.

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My sister used some service called Claimyr to get updates on her appeal status. She said it was way better than trying to call Washington ESD directly. Might be worth looking into.

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Someone else mentioned that too. I might try it since I can't get through on the phone.

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Yeah she said they actually got her connected to someone who could tell her exactly where her appeal stood in the process.

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PROTIP: Document everything! Keep records of all your attempts to contact Washington ESD, save all emails and letters, and write down dates and times of any conversations. This can help if there are delays or issues.

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Good advice. I've been keeping a spreadsheet of all my interactions so far.

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Smart! That kind of documentation can be really helpful if you need to escalate or if there are problems with your case.

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The whole system is so slow and bureaucratic. I get that they need to be thorough but people are struggling financially while waiting months for decisions.

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Exactly! I'm burning through my emergency fund while waiting for this to get resolved.

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I understand the frustration but there's also a lot of fraud in the system. The thorough review process protects the integrity of the program.

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hang in there! i know the waiting sucks but if you were really laid off and not fired for misconduct you should win your appeal. the truth usually comes out in these hearings

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Thanks, I hope you're right. I have nothing to hide so hopefully that works in my favor.

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One thing that helped me during my appeal wait was applying for other assistance programs. Food stamps, utility assistance, etc. can help bridge the gap while you're waiting for UI benefits.

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That's a good idea. I hadn't thought about other programs. Do you know where to apply?

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DSHS website has most of the programs listed. Also check with local food banks and utility companies for assistance programs.

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I've heard that some people get their appeals resolved faster if they have a compelling hardship story. Not sure if that's true but might be worth mentioning in your appeal if you're facing eviction or something.

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Appeals are supposed to be decided solely on the merits of the case, not on hardship. While hardship might get you priority scheduling in rare cases, it won't change the outcome.

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Good to know, thanks for the clarification. I guess I was thinking of expedited processing rather than the actual decision.

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The key is to stay patient and keep your documentation organized. Appeals do take time but most legitimate cases do get resolved favorably. Don't let the stress get to you too much.

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Trying to stay positive but it's hard when bills are piling up. Hopefully it gets resolved soon.

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Make sure you check your SecureAccess Washington account regularly for updates. Sometimes they post hearing dates or request additional information and if you miss it, it can delay things even more.

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Good point. I've been checking it every few days but I should probably check more often.

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Yeah, I'd check at least weekly. They don't always send email notifications for everything.

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Bottom line is 6-12 weeks is normal for the whole appeal process. Sucks but that's reality. At least Washington ESD is more efficient than unemployment agencies in some other states I've dealt with.

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Well that's something I guess. Thanks everyone for all the advice and timeline info. Really helps to know what to expect.

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Good luck with your appeal! Remember that Claimyr option if you need to get status updates. Really saved me a lot of frustration.

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One last thing - if you do win your appeal, don't be surprised if it takes another 2-3 weeks to actually start receiving payments. The system has to process the decision and calculate backpay.

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Of course there's more waiting even after winning! But good to know so I can plan accordingly.

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Yeah, the bureaucracy never ends. But at least you'll get all your backpay in a lump sum when it does come through.

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