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ESD denied me for 'able and available' while working reduced hours and attending school - appeal help needed

I'm really stressed out about my unemployment situation and hoping someone can help. ESD denied my benefits claiming I'm not 'able and available' for work, but I AM currently employed - just with ZERO available shifts (retail clothing store cut everyone's hours). I'm also taking full-time courses trying to get my degree so I can get out of this cycle of unreliable work. It's been SIX WEEKS since I filed, and I just got an eviction notice plus my electricity is about to be shut off. I filed an appeal right away but haven't heard anything. I have a hearing coming up and I'm terrified I'll say the wrong thing. Does anyone know how to win an appeal for 'able and available' issues when you're both working (technically) AND in school? I refuse to lie during the hearing, but I honestly think I should qualify since I would take shifts if they were offered to me! My rent is $1,375 and I literally made $228 last month. Any advice would be SO appreciated.

I've been through this exact situation. The key issue is whether your school schedule restricts your availability for work. ESD is very strict about the 'able and available' requirement - you must be available for full-time work during all normal business hours for your occupation. Being in school full-time is often considered a restriction on availability. For your hearing, you'll need to prove that: 1. Your school schedule doesn't prevent you from accepting full-time work 2. You would drop classes or rearrange your schedule if offered more hours 3. You're actively looking for additional employment Bring documentation showing your flexible class schedule (online classes? evening classes?) and any communications with your employer requesting more hours.

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Andre Moreau

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Thank you so much for this detailed response. Most of my classes are online, but I do have two in-person classes on Tuesday/Thursday mornings. Does that automatically disqualify me? I've been applying to jobs that would work around this schedule - is that enough? And yes, I've been begging my manager for more shifts but they keep saying "maybe next month" for the past 3 months.

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ur probably screwed tbh. i had same thing happen when i was taking 2 classes at community college!! esd says ur not available if u cant work ALL hours. its total bs but thats how they do it

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Andre Moreau

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Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. Did you try appealing? Did anything work?

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Mei Chen

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This is why the system is BROKEN!! ESD claims they want people to better themselves through education but then denies benefits if you're in school. I was denied last year for the same reason - working part-time + taking classes. The ALJ (Administrative Law Judge) at my hearing didn't care that I was looking for work or that I needed money to survive. They just kept repeating "but are you available for ALL shifts?"

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CosmicCadet

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While the system can be frustrating, there are legitimate reasons for the able and available requirement. The unemployment system is designed for people who are ready to take full-time work immediately. For students, there are other assistance programs that might be more appropriate like financial aid, hardship grants, or emergency assistance programs through your school or local social services.

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Here's what worked for me in your exact situation: At the hearing, I explained that I was PRIMARILY a worker who happened to be taking classes, not primarily a student who was working. I brought documentation showing: 1. My work history (proving I was established in my field before school) 2. Emails to my employer requesting more hours 3. My job search log showing applications to jobs that matched my schedule 4. A statement that I would modify my educational pursuits if full-time work became available The key was demonstrating that work was my priority, not school. I won my appeal.

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Andre Moreau

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This is incredibly helpful! I've been working in retail for 3 years before starting school, so I can definitely prove that. Going to put together all those documents tonight. Thank you!

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Liam O'Connor

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have u tried calling esd?? they might be able to tell u exactly what to bring to hearing. but good luck getting thru lol i tried for 2 weeks straight

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Amara Adeyemi

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When I had my hearing for a similar issue, I learned that "able and available" has a very specific meaning to ESD. Being available means you must be able to accept ANY shift for which you're qualified, without restrictions. Your current part-time employment doesn't matter - what matters is if your school schedule prevents you from accepting hypothetical full-time work. Do you have documentation that your classes are flexible? Can you prove you'd be able to work full-time hours if offered? That's what the judge will be looking for.

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Andre Moreau

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I could definitely move most of my classes around since they're online, but the Tuesday/Thursday ones are required in-person labs that I can't change this semester. I'm worried that's going to be the sticking point.

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CosmicCadet

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I'm an employment counselor and work with many clients in your situation. Here's what you should know about the 'able and available' requirement: 1. Washington law requires you to be available for all hours customary for your occupation (for retail, this includes evenings, weekends, etc.) 2. Student status doesn't automatically disqualify you, but you need to demonstrate that school doesn't interfere with potential work 3. For your hearing, focus on your work search efforts and willingness to adjust school for work Bring documentation of your work search activities (minimum 3 per week), any job applications, and emails showing you've requested more hours from your current employer. Emphasize that work is your priority and school is secondary if the judge asks.

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Andre Moreau

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Thank you for the professional advice! I definitely have been doing my 3 job searches every week and documenting everything. Would it help to bring a statement from my current manager confirming that they've reduced hours for everyone, not just me?

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Based on your situation with the eviction notice, you might also want to look into emergency rental assistance through DSHS or your county's housing authority. Many counties have programs specifically to prevent eviction while you're sorting out income issues. Don't wait until after your ESD appeal is decided - apply for emergency assistance now.

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Andre Moreau

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That's a really good point. I'll look into that tomorrow morning. Do you happen to know if King County has a good program for this? That's where I'm located.

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Mei Chen

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Listen I went through EXACTLY this same BS with ESD last year. Here's what you absolutely NEED TO KNOW that nobody tells you: The judges at these hearings are looking for very specific answers. When they ask if you're available for work, they're trying to trick you - if you say "yes, except for Tuesday/Thursday mornings" you WILL be denied. If you say "yes, I'm available and would adjust my school schedule if needed for work" you MIGHT win. It's ridiculous but that's how they operate.

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This is partially correct, but I wouldn't characterize it as the judges trying to "trick" you. They're applying the law as written. The key is honestly addressing your availability while demonstrating flexibility and prioritization of work. Claiming you're available when you're not could be considered misrepresentation and create worse problems.

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did u try applying for hardship at ur school? sometimes they have emergency money for students about to be evicted

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Andre Moreau

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I didn't even think about that! I'll check with the financial aid office tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion!

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Amara Adeyemi

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After my hearing (I won btw), the judge told me that school + work cases often come down to these factors: 1. Is your school schedule flexible? 2. Do you have a history of working while in school? 3. Have you turned down any work because of school? 4. Is your field of study related to your work history? Make sure you address all these points during your hearing. And be super direct - don't ramble or they'll get annoyed.

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Andre Moreau

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Thanks for the insider info! I've definitely never turned down shifts because of school - the issue is there aren't any shifts being offered. I'll make sure to be clear and direct about that.

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