Won an ESD appeal after being disqualified as a student - is it possible?
I'm at my wit's end with ESD. I was receiving unemployment benefits for about 6 weeks after being laid off from my manufacturing job. Then I decided to enroll in evening classes at the local community college (just 2 classes, 6 credits total) to improve my skills while job hunting. I reported this on my weekly claim form, and BOOM - disqualified immediately with a notice saying I'm not eligible because I'm a student. I've already filed an appeal, but the hearing date is still 5 weeks away. My understanding was that as long as I'm available for full-time work and actively job searching, being a part-time student shouldn't automatically disqualify me. The classes don't even interfere with standard work hours! Has anyone successfully appealed a student disqualification? What evidence or arguments worked? My savings are nearly gone and I'm getting desperate.
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JaylinCharles
Yes, you absolutely can win this appeal! I went through almost the exact same situation last year. The key is proving that your school schedule doesn't prevent you from accepting full-time work. For your hearing, prepare documentation that shows: 1. Your class schedule (highlighting that classes are evenings/weekends) 2. Proof that you're willing and able to quit school if it interferes with employment 3. Your job search log showing you're applying to full-time positions 4. Any correspondence with potential employers showing availability Make sure to emphasize that you're a worker who happens to be taking classes, not a student who happens to be looking for work. That distinction matters to the administrative law judge.
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Brianna Muhammad
•Thank you so much for this! Did you have to bring in your actual class syllabus or was just the schedule enough? And did you have to get a statement from the school about withdrawal policies?
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Eloise Kendrick
they always do this to students its bs the whole system is rigged u prob wont win cuz thats how they save money. my cousin was in same boat and judge sided with esd even tho he was only taking online classes
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Lucas Schmidt
•Actually, this isn't accurate. The Administrative Law Judges are independent from ESD and make their decisions based on WAC regulations. The law specifically states that being a student doesn't automatically disqualify you if you remain available for full-time work. I've seen many successful appeals on this exact issue when properly documented.
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Freya Collins
I won my appeal!!! I was in almost the same situation in 2024. Taking night classes at Bellevue College while looking for work during the day. ESD flagged me and cut me off. The big thing that helped me win was bringing actual job application emails showing I was applying for daytime positions. I also had my academic advisor write a letter stating that my program was flexible and designed for working adults. Don't give up!
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Brianna Muhammad
•That's amazing to hear! I'll definitely reach out to my advisor for a similar letter. How long did it take from the hearing to get the decision?
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Freya Collins
•It took about 2 weeks after the hearing to get the decision. One more tip - I practiced my answers before the hearing. The judge asked very specific questions about whether I would quit school if a job conflicted with classes. Be ready to answer that convincingly!
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LongPeri
OMG Im dealing with this EXACT SAME ISSUE right now!!!! I got disqualified last month for taking ONE online class that doesn't even have specific meeting times?! Its ridiculous and I can't get through to anyone at ESD to explain. Have you been able to talk to someone directly to explain your situation?
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Oscar O'Neil
•I couldn't get through to ESD for WEEKS when this happened to me. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual agent within 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The agent explained that I still needed to go through the appeal process, but at least I got some clarity about what documentation to prepare. Saved me so much stress just knowing what to expect at the hearing.
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Sara Hellquiem
My neighbor went thru something similar with her claim last fall. She was taking online classes and got disqualified but dont think she ever appealed it just found a job insted. good luck hope u win
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Lucas Schmidt
To be clear on the legal specifics: Under Washington State law, attending school doesn't automatically disqualify you from receiving unemployment benefits. The key legal test is whether you're still available for full-time work and willing to adjust your school schedule if necessary. WAC 192-170-050 and 192-170-070 outline the requirements. The burden is on you to prove: 1. You're available for full-time work during all the hours and days that are typical for your occupation 2. Your school attendance doesn't substantially reduce your job prospects 3. You'd be willing and able to change your school schedule or withdraw from classes if required for work Bring documentation of job applications, offer your work history in similar roles with similar hours, and be prepared to testify that work takes priority over school. About 65% of these types of appeals are successful when properly documented.
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Brianna Muhammad
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'll definitely reference these specific WAC codes in my hearing. Do you know if I should submit my documentation ahead of time or just bring it to the hearing?
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Lucas Schmidt
•Submit copies of your documentation to OAH at least 3 business days before your hearing. This gives the judge time to review everything. Then also bring copies to the hearing. Make sure to organize your documents clearly with labels or a table of contents if you have multiple items. Keep it focused on the specific issue - your availability for work despite taking classes.
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Eloise Kendrick
i heard esd is super backed up right now so your appeal mite take way longer than 5 weeks just warning u
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JaylinCharles
•Actually, appeal hearings with OAH (Office of Administrative Hearings) are running pretty close to schedule right now. The 5-week timeframe is fairly accurate for 2025. It's the initial ESD determinations that are backed up. Once you get to the appeal stage with OAH, the process is much more predictable.
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Charlee Coleman
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while disqualified and waiting for your appeal! If you win, they'll only pay you for weeks you properly filed claims. I learned this the hard way and lost out on about $2,900 in benefits I could have received retroactively.
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Brianna Muhammad
•Oh wow, I didn't know this! I've been so discouraged I almost stopped filing. Thank you for the tip - I'll definitely keep submitting my weekly claims.
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Liv Park
I was going through this same problem back in January. Got denied because I started a part-time online program. I was too scared to appeal so I just gave up and took a job I didn't really want. Reading this thread I wish I had fought it! Let us know how your appeal goes!
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Brianna Muhammad
Just wanted to update everyone - I had my appeal hearing yesterday and it went much better than expected! The judge seemed sympathetic when I showed my evening-only class schedule and all the daytime job interviews I've had. I also submitted a letter from my academic advisor explaining the program's flexibility, and presented my job search log showing I'm applying for full-time positions consistent with my previous work. I don't have the decision yet, but I feel cautiously optimistic. The judge specifically mentioned that being a student isn't automatically disqualifying if you maintain availability for work. Will update when I get the final ruling! Thank you all for the advice and support - it made a huge difference in how I prepared!
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JaylinCharles
•This sounds very promising! In my experience, when the judge mentions the "not automatically disqualifying" standard during the hearing, it's usually a good sign. Looking forward to hearing your final result!
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