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Ali Anderson

PA UC appeal for voluntary quit - homeless & in school - will I win my hearing on the 16th?

I've got an appeal hearing scheduled for March 16th and I'm stressing out big time about it. My employer reported me as a voluntary quit after I missed two shifts, but there's way more to the story. I was literally homeless during my employment (staying at shelters or friends' couches when possible) AND taking night classes to try to improve my situation. My manager knew about both these things. The days I missed were because I had to deal with shelter issues one day and had a major exam the other day. I called in for the first absence but couldn't reach anyone for the second. When I came back, they just terminated me saying I voluntarily quit by not showing up. I'm planning to explain during my appeal that these were necessities due to my housing crisis and education commitment - both of which my employer was aware of. Does anyone have experience with similar appeals? What kind of evidence should I bring? Will the referee be sympathetic to my situation? This unemployment money would literally help me get stable housing.

Zadie Patel

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Thats a tough one man. My cousin had similar situation but it wasnt school it was childcare issues. The employer knew about it too but still fought his claim. I think ur gonna need proof that they knew about your situation like emails or texts where u told them. Good luck!!

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Ali Anderson

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Thanks! I do have a few texts where I mentioned my housing situation. I'm worried because I lost the phone with most of the messages though. Do you know if your cousin won his appeal?

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For your appeal, you'll need to demonstrate that your absence was due to a "necessitous and compelling reason" under PA UC law. Being homeless and attending school can qualify, but you'll need to prove: 1. That your employer was aware of your situation (any written communication is helpful) 2. That you made reasonable efforts to preserve your employment (calling in for the first absence helps your case) 3. That the circumstances were truly beyond your control Bring any documentation of your homelessness (shelter records, social services paperwork) and your school enrollment. Also bring your work schedule showing the missed days and any call logs or texts showing you attempted to notify them. The referee will consider if your housing crisis constituted a real necessity that prevented work attendance. Make sure to explain that you were actively trying to improve your situation through education.

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Ali Anderson

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This is really helpful information, thank you! I can definitely get proof of my school enrollment and exam schedule. For the shelter, I have some check-in receipts they gave me. Do you think it matters that I didn't formally request time off in advance? I honestly never knew when I'd have shelter issues until they happened.

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i had an appeal hearing last year and the WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST US!! the referee barely let me talk and kept interrupting me to ask questions about things i was ABOUT TO EXPLAIN if they'd just LET ME FINISH!!! they denied my appeal even with all my evidence. it's all about if the employer shows up - if they do, you're probably screwed. if they don't show up you might have a chance. DON'T expect fairness!!!

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Emma Morales

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I actually had a good experience with my referee. They were really fair and listened to everything. I think it depends on who you get. Sorry yours didn't go well though.

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Pennsylvania law specifically addresses "voluntary quit" cases when there are compelling personal circumstances. You should focus on demonstrating that you made reasonable efforts to maintain employment despite your homelessness. One important thing: did you ever formally request accommodation for your situation? Or did you just inform them informally? This can make a difference in your case. Also, for the appeal hearing, prepare a clear timeline of events and practice explaining your situation concisely. The referee will appreciate organization. I've helped several people prepare for UC appeals, and being calm and factual works better than emotional appeals, even though your situation is certainly difficult.

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Ali Anderson

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I never formally requested accommodation - I didn't even know that was a thing I could do. It was all just verbal conversations with my manager where I explained my situation. Does that hurt my case a lot? And thank you for the advice about staying calm and factual. I tend to get emotional when talking about this stuff.

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Lucas Parker

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i was in a kinda simlar situation last year!!! not homeless but had a family emergency that made me miss work for 3 days and they fired me saying i quit. i was so nervous for my appeal i couldn't sleep for days before!!! but guess what the employer never even showed up to the hearing!!!! the referee just asked me a few questions and i got approved. sometimes employers don't bother coming to these hearings especially if ur at a big company. fingers crossed that happens for u!

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Ali Anderson

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That would be amazing if they didn't show up! It's a medium-sized retail chain so maybe they won't bother. I'm definitely losing sleep over this too. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Donna Cline

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Have you been able to get through to anyone at UC to ask about your specific case? I've found that sometimes they can give you tips about what to prepare for your specific situation. But getting through on the phone is basically impossible these days...

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Ali Anderson

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No I haven't been able to reach anyone. I've called at least 20 times over the past week and either get disconnected or it just rings forever. It's so frustrating not being able to ask questions before such an important hearing.

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Emma Morales

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If you're struggling to reach PA UC before your hearing, you might want to check out a service called Claimyr. I was in a similar situation with an appeal coming up and couldn't get through on the phones. Claimyr got me connected to an agent within about 30 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. I was able to get crucial information about what to bring to my hearing. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2. The website is claimyr.com if you want to check it out. Getting actual advice from UC directly was way better than guessing what I needed for my hearing.

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Zadie Patel

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does that actually work? i thought it was a scam or something

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For your specific situation, I recommend organizing your appeal testimony in this order: 1. Begin by stating that your separation was NOT a voluntary quit but a termination after absences that were caused by necessitous and compelling reasons (homelessness and education) 2. Clearly establish the timeline: when you were hired, when you informed them of your housing/school situation, the specific dates of absence, and when/how you were terminated 3. Explain how each absence was directly related to your housing crisis or education requirements 4. Emphasize any attempts you made to notify them of absences Most importantly: appear at your hearing on time and be prepared for the employer to possibly bring attendance records or company policies about attendance. Good luck!

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Ali Anderson

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for laying it out step by step! I've been trying to organize my thoughts but wasn't sure what order to present things. I'm definitely going to use this structure. I'll make sure to be early for the hearing too.

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Hey just wondering did u win your appeal? I have a similar situation coming up and would like to know how it went

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Ali Anderson

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My hearing is still a few days away (on the 16th). I'll try to update here afterward if I remember. I'm collecting all my evidence now based on everyone's advice.

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