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Confused about what wages are subject to unemployment tax - Washington ESD question

I'm trying to figure out what wages are actually subject to unemployment tax for Washington ESD purposes. My employer has been paying me a mix of regular salary, commission bonuses, and some reimbursements for travel expenses. I'm wondering if all of this counts toward my unemployment benefits calculation or just certain types of wages? Also does overtime pay count differently than regular hours? I'm asking because I might need to file for unemployment soon and want to understand what my benefit amount might be based on.

Generally speaking, most wages you earn from employment are subject to unemployment tax in Washington. This includes your regular salary, overtime pay, and commission bonuses. However, expense reimbursements typically aren't considered wages for unemployment purposes since they're just paying you back for money you spent.

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That makes sense about the expense reimbursements. So my commission bonuses would definitely count toward my benefit calculation then?

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Yes, commissions are considered wages for unemployment purposes as long as they're part of your regular compensation structure.

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I had similar questions when I filed last year. Washington ESD looks at all your taxable wages from your W-2, basically anything that had unemployment tax taken out. The tricky part is they use your highest earning quarters to calculate your weekly benefit amount.

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Do you remember approximately what percentage of your wages your weekly benefit ended up being?

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It was roughly 60% of my average weekly wages, but it depends on your total earnings in your base period.

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That sounds helpful, I've been dreading trying to call Washington ESD directly. How long did it take them to connect you?

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Just want to clarify - not ALL wages are subject to unemployment tax. There's actually a wage base limit each year. For 2025, I believe employers only pay unemployment tax on the first $68,500 of each employee's wages. But for your benefit calculation, Washington ESD still looks at all your wages even above that limit.

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Oh interesting, so if I made more than $68,500, my employer only paid unemployment tax on part of it, but my benefits would still be calculated on my full wages?

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Exactly. The tax cap affects what your employer pays, but your benefit calculation uses all qualifying wages from your base period.

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This is confusing me too. So wages above the cap still count for our benefits even though no tax was paid on them?

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wait so tips count as wages for unemployment? i work in a restaurant and get cash tips plus my hourly wage

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Tips that are reported to your employer and show up on your W-2 would count as wages. Cash tips that weren't reported might not be included in your wage calculation.

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oh no i definitely haven't been reporting all my cash tips... does that mean my benefits would be lower?

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Your benefits are based on wages that were reported and had taxes taken out. Unreported income wouldn't be included in Washington ESD's calculation.

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now with my unemployment claim. Had wages from two different jobs plus some freelance work that was 1099. The regular W-2 wages count for sure, but the 1099 income doesn't count toward unemployment benefits since no unemployment tax was paid on it.

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That's good to know about 1099 work not counting. I had some consulting income last year that was 1099.

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Yeah, only wages where unemployment tax was actually deducted count toward your benefit calculation. The 1099 work might affect your job search requirements though.

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This whole wage calculation thing is so confusing! I've been trying to figure out my potential benefits for weeks. Does vacation pay that gets paid out when you leave a job count as wages for unemployment purposes?

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Vacation payouts can be tricky. If it's paid as a lump sum when you leave, it might affect when you can start collecting benefits rather than your benefit amount calculation.

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So it could delay when I can start getting unemployment? That's frustrating since I earned that vacation time.

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This is exactly the kind of question where Claimyr really helped me. The agent was able to look at my specific situation and explain how my vacation payout would be handled.

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Another thing to consider is if you had any pre-tax deductions like health insurance premiums or 401k contributions. Those reduce your taxable wages, which could affect your unemployment calculation since it's based on wages that unemployment tax was paid on.

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I do have health insurance and 401k deductions. So those would lower the wages used for my benefit calculation?

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Yes, because unemployment tax is typically calculated on your wages after those pre-tax deductions are taken out.

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One more thing - if you worked in multiple states, it gets more complicated. Washington ESD might need to coordinate with other states to get your full wage history for the base period calculation.

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I've only worked in Washington, so hopefully that keeps things simpler for my claim.

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Lucky you! I worked in Oregon for part of my base period and it took forever for Washington ESD to get those wage records.

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Just went through this whole process. The key thing is Washington ESD uses your four highest-earning quarters in your base period to calculate benefits. So even if some wages aren't subject to unemployment tax, what matters most is having good wage records for those quarters.

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How do I know which quarters were my highest earning? Is that something I can figure out before filing?

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You can look at your pay stubs or W-2s by quarter. Washington ESD will also tell you your base period wages when you file your claim.

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Severance pay is another wage type that can be confusing. If you get severance when you're laid off, it might count as wages and could delay your unemployment benefits even though you're actually unemployed.

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Wait, so severance pay could prevent you from getting unemployment right away? That seems unfair.

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It depends on how the severance is structured and paid out. Some severance is considered wages for specific time periods, which can create waiting periods.

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This is another situation where talking to a Washington ESD agent through Claimyr was super helpful. They could explain exactly how my severance would affect my claim timing.

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been trying to call washington esd for weeks about my wage calculation and cant get through. the phone system is ridiculous

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. The Washington ESD phone system is nearly impossible to navigate on your own.

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might have to try that. tired of wasting hours calling just to get hung up on

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For anyone still confused about this, Washington ESD has a benefit estimator tool on their website that can give you a rough idea of your potential benefits based on your wages. Not perfect but better than guessing.

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I tried that tool but wasn't sure which wages to include. Sounds like I should use all my W-2 wages from my base period?

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Yes, include all wages that had unemployment tax deducted. The tool should give you a ballpark estimate.

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Stock options and bonuses can also be subject to unemployment tax if they're part of your regular compensation. Had a coworker who was surprised that his annual bonus counted toward his benefit calculation.

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That's good to know. I get an annual performance bonus that should count then.

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As long as it shows up on your W-2 and had taxes taken out, it should be included in your wage calculation.

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The whole system seems designed to be as confusing as possible. Why can't Washington ESD just make it simple and clear what counts as wages for unemployment?

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Tell me about it. Every situation seems to have different rules and exceptions.

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It's complicated because there are federal and state rules that sometimes overlap or conflict. Plus different types of income have different tax implications.

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One last tip - keep all your pay stubs and tax documents organized. If there's any dispute about your wages or benefit calculation, you'll need documentation to back up your claims.

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Good advice. I have most of my recent pay stubs but might need to request older ones from HR.

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Definitely get those older stubs if you can. Washington ESD looks back 5 quarters for your base period, so you might need wage info going back over a year.

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thanks everyone for all the info. this thread has been way more helpful than anything i found on the washington esd website

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Agreed! I feel much more prepared to file my claim now that I understand what wages count.

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Same here. At least now I know what questions to ask when I finally get through to an agent.

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Final thought - if you're still unsure about your specific situation, it's worth getting clarification before you file. Mistakes in your initial claim can cause delays and complications later.

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That's a good point. Better to get it right the first time than deal with corrections later.

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Exactly why services like Claimyr can be worth it. Getting accurate information upfront saves a lot of headaches down the road.

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Hope this helps everyone figure out their wage situations. The unemployment system is complicated enough without having to guess about the basics.

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Definitely helps! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge.

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This has been such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation where I'm trying to understand what wages will count toward my potential unemployment benefits. I have a base salary plus quarterly bonuses, and some months I get overtime pay too. From reading all the responses here, it sounds like all of these would count as long as they show up on my W-2 and had unemployment tax deducted. I'm also relieved to learn that the 1099 consulting work I did last year won't count - I was worried that might complicate things. Going to gather up all my pay stubs and W-2s now so I'm prepared when I file my claim.

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