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Zane Hernandez

Can you receive Washington ESD unemployment if you were fired for cause?

I was terminated from my warehouse job last month for attendance issues - had some medical problems that caused me to miss work but didn't have proper documentation at the time. My supervisor said it was job abandonment but I never quit, just had to deal with some health stuff. Filed for unemployment through Washington ESD but I'm worried they'll deny me since I was technically fired. Does anyone know if you can still get benefits if you were terminated for cause? Really stressed about this since I have rent due next week.

Yes, you can potentially receive unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on the specific circumstances. Washington ESD will determine if your termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Attendance issues might not automatically disqualify you, especially if you had legitimate medical reasons. They'll investigate both sides of the story during the adjudication process.

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That's somewhat reassuring. How long does the adjudication process usually take? I haven't heard anything back yet and it's been about 10 days since I filed.

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is. They'll likely contact both you and your former employer to get statements about what happened.

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I went through something similar last year. Got fired for being late too many times but it was because of childcare issues. Washington ESD approved my claim after they investigated. The key is that they look at whether you willfully violated company policy or if there were circumstances beyond your control.

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That gives me hope! Did you have to provide any documentation about your childcare situation?

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I provided some emails I had sent to my supervisor explaining the situation, plus daycare records showing the issues I was having. Any documentation helps your case.

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Never heard of that before but I'll definitely look into it. I've been trying to call for days and either get busy signals or get disconnected after waiting forever.

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Wait, is that legit? Sounds too good to be true that they can actually get you through to Washington ESD that quickly.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked for me. They basically handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent picks up. Saved me so much frustration.

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The whole system is ridiculous tbh. I know people who got fired for way worse stuff and still got approved, while others got denied for minor things. It's like playing the lottery with your livelihood.

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Unfortunately that's kind of true. A lot depends on who reviews your case and how well you can document your side of the story.

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That's what I'm worried about. I don't have tons of documentation about my medical issues since I was trying to handle it privately at first.

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Don't panic about documentation yet. Washington ESD understands that not everyone has perfect records. What matters more is being honest and consistent in your statements. If they do an interview, explain the medical situation clearly and mention that you were dealing with health issues that affected your attendance.

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Should I try to get medical records now to support my case, or is it too late?

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It's not too late. If you have any medical appointments or treatments from that time period, getting records could help. Even if you don't have formal documentation, be prepared to explain what was going on.

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same thing happened to my brother last year, got fired for missing too much work but it was because his kid kept getting sick. took like 5 weeks but he eventually got approved

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5 weeks? Man that's a long time to wait when you need the money now.

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yeah it sucked but he got backpay for all those weeks once it was approved

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One thing I learned is that 'job abandonment' and being 'fired for cause' are actually different things in Washington ESD's eyes. If your supervisor is calling it job abandonment, that might work in your favor since you didn't actually quit.

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That's interesting. I definitely never quit or intended to quit, I was just dealing with health issues and trying to get back to work.

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Exactly right. Job abandonment usually requires clear evidence that you intended to quit, like not showing up for several days without any communication.

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The medical angle is important. Even if you didn't have formal FMLA or anything, Washington ESD recognizes that health issues can be legitimate reasons for work problems. Make sure you emphasize that in any correspondence or interviews.

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I did try to communicate with my supervisor about the health issues, but I was probably too vague because I was embarrassed about the details.

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That's understandable, but now you'll want to be more specific with Washington ESD about what was going on medically, even if it's personal.

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Just want to add that while you're waiting for the adjudication decision, make sure you keep filing your weekly claims. Even if your claim is pending, you need to maintain your eligibility by continuing to file and report any work search activities.

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Yes, I've been doing that. It's weird filing when I don't know if I'll get approved, but I figured it was better to be safe.

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Absolutely the right approach. If you get approved, you'll receive backpay for all those weeks you filed.

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Just to follow up on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I used it again this week to check on a different issue and it's still working great. If you do decide to call Washington ESD about your adjudication status, it might save you a lot of time and frustration.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money.

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I think the value is definitely worth it when you consider how much time you save and the reduced stress of actually getting through to speak with someone. Check out their site for details.

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Been following this thread because I'm in a similar situation. Got fired for 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I complained about safety violations. Worried Washington ESD won't see it my way.

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If you were fired in retaliation for reporting safety issues, that could actually strengthen your unemployment case. Washington ESD looks at whether the termination was for legitimate misconduct.

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That's good to know. I have emails about the safety concerns I raised, so maybe that will help.

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Update us when you hear back OP! I think you have a decent chance based on what you've described, especially with the medical issues angle.

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Will do! Hopefully I hear something soon. This waiting is killing me financially and emotionally.

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Hang in there. The waiting is the worst part, but most people I know who had legitimate reasons for their work issues eventually got approved.

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Just remember that even if you get initially denied, you can appeal the decision. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case with more documentation and potentially a hearing.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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You have 30 days from the date of the denial notice to file an appeal. Don't wait if you get bad news - start the appeal process right away.

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For what it's worth, attendance issues are usually viewed more favorably than things like theft or violence. Washington ESD understands that people have legitimate reasons for missing work sometimes.

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That makes sense. I was never dishonest or did anything malicious, just had some health problems that affected my attendance.

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Exactly, and the fact that you tried to handle it privately at first shows you weren't trying to abuse the system or anything.

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Has anyone else tried that Claimyr service? I'm getting desperate trying to reach someone at Washington ESD about my own claim issues.

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Yeah, I've used it a few times now and it's been consistent. Way better than spending half my day redialing busy numbers.

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I was skeptical but tried it last week and actually got through to an agent who helped resolve my identity verification issue. Pretty impressed honestly.

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The medical documentation angle is really important. Even if you don't have formal doctor's notes from that exact time, any records showing ongoing health issues around that period could help your case.

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I do have some pharmacy records and a couple of urgent care visits from around that time. Should I gather those?

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Absolutely. Anything that shows you were dealing with legitimate health issues during the time your attendance was suffering will support your case.

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Don't let the employer's version of events discourage you. Companies often exaggerate or mischaracterize situations when they respond to unemployment claims. Washington ESD will evaluate both sides.

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I'm worried they might have painted me in a really bad light since things were tense when I left.

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That's exactly why the adjudication process exists - to get your side of the story and make a fair determination based on all the facts.

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Good luck OP. Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits. Focus on documenting your medical situation and being honest about what happened. The system isn't perfect but it does try to be fair in most cases.

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Thanks for all the support everyone. This thread has been really helpful and given me hope that things might work out.

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Keep us posted on how it goes! Rooting for you.

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One last tip - if Washington ESD schedules a phone interview with you about your claim, make sure you're prepared with specific dates and details about your medical issues and any communication you had with your employer. Being organized and factual helps a lot.

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That's good advice. I should probably write down a timeline of what happened before I potentially get that call.

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Exactly. Having a clear timeline with dates and details will make you sound more credible and prepared during any interview.

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