Can you get Washington ESD unemployment for no call no show termination?

Thanks for the info. Should I tell her not to bother filing then?

No, she should definitely file. There might be circumstances Washington ESD considers that could change the outcome. Better to try and get denied than not try at all.

What kind of good reasons would they accept?

medical emergencies, family crisis, stuff like that. but she needs documentation to prove it

How long does adjudication usually take? My claim has been pending for 2 weeks already.

Can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how backed up they are. If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD about your adjudication status, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps people get through to agents. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ

While the system can be frustrating, Washington ESD does approve benefits when the termination wasn't the employee's fault. No call no show is pretty clearly misconduct though.

Maybe but I've seen them deny people for the dumbest reasons. The whole adjudication process is a joke.

Really? What were your attendance issues if you don't mind me asking?

I was late several times due to childcare issues. But I always called in and explained. No call no show is different - that shows you abandoned your job.

Yeah there's a big difference between calling in late vs just not showing up at all.

What if she had a family emergency but couldn't call because she was at the hospital?

That's exactly the kind of circumstance that could change the outcome. She'd need documentation like hospital records to prove it though.

If you got denied for misconduct but you were calling in, you might have grounds for an appeal. You have 30 days from the denial notice to file an appeal with Washington ESD.

thanks, i'll look into that. this whole process is such a nightmare.

So you're saying there's basically no chance she'll get benefits?

I'm saying it's unlikely unless she has documentation of an emergency that prevented her from calling. But Washington ESD makes the final determination, not the employer.

Wow 3 months? That's a long time to wait for benefits.

Yeah it was rough financially but the back pay made up for it. The key was having the medical records to prove his case.

This is why documentation is so important. Always keep records of everything when dealing with Washington ESD.

Good point. I'll make sure she's honest on the application.

Exactly. Washington ESD will verify everything with the employer anyway during adjudication.

How long did it take them to deny you?

like 3 weeks after filing. got the determination letter saying misconduct disqualification

How does the appeal process work exactly?

You file an appeal within 30 days, then there's a phone hearing where you and the employer present evidence to a judge. If you're having trouble contacting Washington ESD about appeals, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier really helps with getting through to agents.

What were your circumstances if you don't mind sharing?

Car broke down and my phone died. Couldn't get to work or call in for 2 days. Got fired when I finally showed up. Hoping Washington ESD sees it as circumstances beyond my control.

That sounds like it could be excusable. Do you have any proof like a tow receipt or repair bill?

Yeah I kept all the receipts. Submitted them with my initial claim.

True, nothing to lose by trying. Thanks everyone for all the advice!

Exactly. And even if she gets denied initially, the appeal process gives her another chance to make her case.

Good point. I'll let her know about that too.

Yeah it's 3 job search activities per week. She can use WorkSourceWA to help track them.

Thanks for the reminder. This is all pretty complicated.

It is complex but once you get the hang of it, the weekly claims are pretty straightforward. The hard part is usually the initial approval process.

That's really helpful insight from someone who worked there. What kind of documentation would be most convincing?

Hospital records, police reports, documentation of family emergencies. Basically anything official that proves the person couldn't reasonably be expected to call or show up to work.

This is the kind of insider knowledge that's really valuable. Thanks for sharing your experience.

A few people have mentioned that service. Is it legit?

Yeah it's real. I was skeptical at first but it actually worked. Saved me hours of trying to call Washington ESD myself.

I might have to try that. Been trying to reach them for weeks about my adjudication.

Perfect summary. I'll pass all this info along to her. Really appreciate everyone's help!

Good luck to your friend. Hope it works out for her.

That's really encouraging to hear about your sister's case! Mental health crises are definitely circumstances beyond someone's control. It sounds like having the right documentation made all the difference in her appeal. I'll make sure to tell my coworker that even if she gets initially denied, the appeal process could still work in her favor if she has any documentation to support extenuating circumstances.