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Can u apply for unemployment if you get fired - Washington ESD eligibility question

So I got terminated last week from my warehouse job and I'm wondering if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? My supervisor said I was let go for attendance issues but I had some legitimate reasons for missing work (car broke down twice, had to take my kid to urgent care). I've been working there for about 8 months and this is my first time dealing with unemployment. Does getting fired automatically disqualify you or does Washington ESD look at the circumstances? I really need the benefits while I look for another job.

You can definitely apply even if you were fired! Washington ESD doesn't automatically disqualify people who were terminated. They'll review your case during the adjudication process to determine if the termination was for 'misconduct' under their definition. Attendance issues can be tricky - if you had legitimate reasons and can document them, that helps your case.

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That's a relief to hear. I do have some documentation like the urgent care visit paperwork. Should I include that when I file my claim?

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Yes, definitely keep all that documentation ready. You might not need it immediately when filing, but Washington ESD may request it during adjudication if your former employer contests the claim.

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I got fired too and still got approved for UI benefits. The key is being honest about what happened when you file your initial claim. Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination based on the facts.

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How long did the whole process take for you? I'm worried about how I'll pay rent if this drags on.

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It took about 3 weeks for my adjudication to complete. Some people get lucky and it's faster, others take longer depending on how complex the case is.

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File your claim ASAP regardless of the termination reason. Even if you're ultimately denied, you want to get the process started. The worst thing you can do is wait and lose potential benefit weeks. Washington ESD has specific criteria for what constitutes disqualifying misconduct, and attendance issues don't always meet that threshold.

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Good point, I'll file today. Is there anything specific I should say or avoid saying in the application?

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Just be truthful and factual. Don't embellish but also don't undersell legitimate reasons you had for absences. Stick to the facts and let Washington ESD make the determination.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already strapped for cash.

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It's worth checking their site for current info, but for me it was worth it to actually get through to someone at Washington ESD instead of being on hold for hours or getting hung up on.

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That's interesting, I might need that if I can't get answers about my claim. The phone system is already driving me crazy.

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attendance issues are bs anyway, these companies expect you to be robots with no life outside work

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While I understand the frustration, Washington ESD still has to follow their guidelines about what constitutes misconduct. The good news is they often side with workers when there are legitimate reasons for absences.

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Update: I filed my claim online this morning. It was actually pretty straightforward. Now I'm just waiting to hear back. Thanks everyone for the encouragement to go ahead and apply!

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Good for you! Make sure to keep filing your weekly claims even while the adjudication is pending. You can't get paid for weeks you don't claim.

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Will do, thanks for the reminder!

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In Washington State, being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits. The law is pretty clear that only termination for 'misconduct' disqualifies you, and misconduct has a specific legal definition. Simple attendance issues often don't rise to that level unless they involve willful disregard of company policy.

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That's reassuring. I definitely wasn't willfully missing work - I had real emergencies that came up.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where Washington ESD typically sides with the worker. Document everything and be prepared to explain your circumstances if they ask.

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ugh the whole system is so stressful, I'm going through something similar right now. Got let go for 'performance issues' but really I think they just wanted to get rid of me. Still waiting to hear back from Washington ESD after 2 weeks

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That's awful, the waiting is the worst part. Have you tried calling them?

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I've tried calling dozens of times but keep getting the busy signal or getting disconnected after being on hold forever. It's so frustrating.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they specialize in getting through to Washington ESD when the normal phone lines are jammed. Might be worth looking into if you're stuck.

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I work in HR and I can tell you that most employers don't contest unemployment claims unless it was a really serious misconduct situation. The paperwork and time involved usually isn't worth it for them, especially for attendance issues.

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That's good to know. My former employer seemed pretty frustrated with me but hopefully they won't make a big deal out of it.

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Even if they do contest it, Washington ESD will review all the facts. They're generally fair in their determinations as long as you're honest about what happened.

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Just remember that even if you get denied initially, you have the right to appeal. Don't give up if the first decision doesn't go your way. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case.

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Good to know there's an appeal option. Hopefully it won't come to that but it's reassuring to know it exists.

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Exactly. Many people don't realize they can challenge an initial denial. The appeals process is there for a reason.

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Whatever you do, don't wait! File immediately even if you're not sure about eligibility. You can always appeal if denied, but you can't go back and claim weeks you didn't file for.

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Already filed this morning thanks to everyone's advice! Now just playing the waiting game.

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been there, got fired from retail job last year for being late too many times (bus was always late, not my fault). Washington ESD approved my claim after about a month of back and forth. Hang in there!

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A month seems like forever when you need the money. Did you have to provide any specific documentation?

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They asked for some stuff from my employer but mostly it was just explaining my side of the story during a phone interview.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process can be unpredictable in terms of timing, but they're generally thorough. Make sure you respond quickly to any requests for information and keep checking your SecureAccess Washington account for updates.

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I'll definitely stay on top of checking my account. Is there usually a notification when they make a decision?

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Yes, you should get a notification through SecureAccess Washington and possibly by mail. Just check regularly to be safe.

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Pro tip: start your job search activities right away even while waiting for approval. Washington ESD requires you to look for work, and you'll need to report those activities on your weekly claims.

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Good reminder! I was already planning to start looking but wasn't sure about the reporting requirements.

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Yeah, you need to log your job search activities. Keep track of where you apply, when you apply, and any interviews or networking events you attend.

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Same boat here! Got terminated for 'attitude problems' which I think is completely unfair. Filed my claim but worried they'll deny it because my supervisor really didn't like me.

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Personality conflicts usually don't qualify as misconduct under Washington ESD rules. As long as you weren't insubordinate or violating specific policies, you should be okay.

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That's reassuring. I was always professional, we just didn't see eye to eye on some work approaches.

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Quick question - do you have to wait for the adjudication to finish before you can start getting payments, or can you get paid for the weeks while it's being reviewed?

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You have to wait for adjudication to complete before any payments are released. But if you're approved, you'll get back pay for all the weeks you filed claims during the waiting period.

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Okay thanks, that makes sense. At least you don't lose those weeks if you're eventually approved.

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I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my pending claim. Worked great - got connected to an actual person who could check my status and explain what was happening. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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That's the second recommendation for that service. Might be worth keeping in mind if I need to talk to someone.

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Yeah, especially if you're dealing with any complications in your case. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to sort things out.

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The whole thing is nerve-wracking but most people who apply do end up getting approved eventually. Try to stay positive and keep up with the process!

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Thanks for the encouragement! This whole situation has been really stressful but everyone's advice has been super helpful.

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Important note: if Washington ESD schedules a fact-finding interview (which they might for a termination case), make sure you participate! Missing those interviews can result in automatic denial.

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Good to know! How do they usually schedule those - by phone or email?

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Usually they'll send a notice through SecureAccess Washington with the date and time. Sometimes it's a phone interview, sometimes in person.

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Bottom line: getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. File your claim, be honest about what happened, and let Washington ESD make the determination. Good luck!

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Thank you! I feel much more confident about the whole process now thanks to everyone's help and advice.

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