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Payton Black

Can unemployment be denied in Washington - what are the main reasons?

I'm wondering about the different ways unemployment can be denied in Washington state. My cousin just got laid off from her retail job and is worried about applying because she's heard stories about people getting rejected. What are the most common reasons Washington ESD denies unemployment claims? Is it better to not apply at all if you're not sure you'll qualify, or should you apply anyway?

Harold Oh

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Yes, unemployment can definitely be denied for several reasons. The main ones in Washington are: not earning enough wages in your base period, quitting without good cause, getting fired for misconduct, not being able and available for work, or not actively searching for work. Your cousin should definitely apply though - it's better to try and get denied than not apply at all.

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Payton Black

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Thanks! She was laid off so that shouldn't be an issue. How much do you need to earn in the base period?

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Harold Oh

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In Washington, you need to have earned at least $1,500 in your base period and your earnings in your highest quarter must be at least 1.5 times your earnings in the lowest quarter. The base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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The biggest reason I see claims get denied is the misconduct issue. If you were fired for attendance problems, policy violations, or performance issues, Washington ESD might consider that misconduct and deny your claim. But if you were laid off due to lack of work, downsizing, or business closure, you should be fine.

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Summer Green

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What exactly counts as misconduct though? I got written up a few times for being late but then got laid off when they closed our department.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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If you were laid off due to department closure, that's not misconduct - that's lack of work. The write-ups probably won't matter since the final separation wasn't due to your performance. You should definitely apply.

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Gael Robinson

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Payton Black

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How does that work exactly? I've heard the Washington ESD phone lines are impossible to get through.

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Gael Robinson

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Basically they handle the calling for you and get you connected to an actual person. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting hung up on.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements too. Even if you qualify initially, you can get your benefits cut off if you don't do enough job searches each week. In Washington it's 3 job search activities per week.

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Payton Black

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What counts as a job search activity?

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Applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, interviews, contacting employers directly. You have to keep a log of everything you do.

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Darcy Moore

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And make sure you're registering with WorkSource Washington too - that's required for most people.

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Dana Doyle

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ugh the whole system is so confusing. I applied 2 weeks ago and still don't know if I'm approved or denied. My claim just says "under review" forever

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Harold Oh

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That probably means you're in adjudication. It can take several weeks, especially if there are any issues with your separation from work.

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Dana Doyle

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how long does adjudication usually take?? I need to pay rent

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on the complexity of your case. If your former employer contests your claim, it takes longer.

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Liam Duke

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Here's something people don't realize - you can be denied even if you technically qualify. I got denied because I couldn't prove I was actively looking for work during my first week. Make sure you start your job search immediately after filing, don't wait.

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Payton Black

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Really? I thought you had a waiting period before you had to start searching.

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Liam Duke

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Nope, Washington eliminated the waiting week a few years ago. You need to be able and available and actively searching from day one.

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Manny Lark

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My brother got denied because he wasn't available for full-time work. He was only looking for part-time jobs because of his kid's schedule. Washington ESD requires you to be available for full-time work unless you have a really good reason.

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Rita Jacobs

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That's not always true though. If you have a valid reason for only being available part-time, like childcare issues, they might still approve you.

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Manny Lark

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Maybe, but in his case they said he needed to be available for full-time work to qualify. He had to appeal and it took months.

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Khalid Howes

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The wage requirement catches a lot of people too. If you only worked part-time or didn't work the full base period, you might not have earned enough to qualify. Washington ESD looks at your earnings over 4 quarters, not just your last job.

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Payton Black

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How do you know if you earned enough?

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Khalid Howes

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You can check your quarterly wage reports on the Secure Access Washington website. They'll show you exactly what wages were reported for each quarter.

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Ben Cooper

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Don't give up if you get denied! I got denied initially because my employer said I was fired for cause, but I appealed and won. The appeal process can take time but it's worth it if you believe you were wrongly denied.

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Payton Black

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How long did your appeal take?

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Ben Cooper

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About 3 months total, but I got backpay for the whole time once I won. The hearing was done over the phone and I was able to explain my side of the story.

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Naila Gordon

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Here's the thing - Washington ESD is really backed up right now. Even if you qualify, it might take weeks to get approved. I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it really helped me get through to someone who could speed up my claim.

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Cynthia Love

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Is it worth the cost though? How much do they charge?

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Naila Gordon

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I'd rather not say the exact amount but it was definitely worth it for me. Saved me weeks of trying to call on my own.

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Darren Brooks

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Another reason for denial is if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization. Washington ESD requires you to be legally authorized to work in the US.

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Payton Black

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My cousin is a citizen so that shouldn't be an issue.

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Rosie Harper

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the worst part is when they deny you and don't even explain why clearly. I had to call like 50 times to get someone to tell me what was wrong with my claim

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Same here! The denial letters are so vague. Would have saved me so much time if I knew about services like Claimyr back then.

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Demi Hall

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If you're on standby (temporarily laid off), different rules apply. You don't have to do work searches but you need to be ready to return to work when called back. A lot of people don't realize this and get denied for not following the right requirements.

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Payton Black

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What's the difference between standby and regular unemployment?

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Demi Hall

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Standby is when you expect to return to the same job within a certain timeframe. Regular unemployment is when you're permanently separated and need to find new work.

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Bottom line - your cousin should definitely apply. Even if there's a chance of denial, it's better to try than assume you won't qualify. The worst they can say is no, and you can always appeal if you think they made a mistake.

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Payton Black

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Thanks everyone! I'll tell her to go ahead and apply. This has been really helpful.

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Harold Oh

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Good luck to her! Make sure she keeps records of everything and starts her job search right away.

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Kara Yoshida

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One more thing - if you had multiple jobs and only lost one of them, you might still qualify for partial unemployment benefits. Washington ESD has specific rules about this that a lot of people don't know about.

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Philip Cowan

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Really? I thought you had to be completely unemployed.

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Kara Yoshida

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Nope! If your hours got reduced or you lost one of multiple jobs, you might qualify for partial benefits. It's based on your earnings compared to your weekly benefit amount.

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