Can you get denied unemployment benefits in Washington state?
I'm worried about applying for unemployment because I'm not sure if I'll qualify. I worked at a retail store for 8 months before getting laid off last week. My manager said something about me being late a few times, but they said it was a layoff due to slow business. Can Washington ESD deny my unemployment claim? What are the main reasons they reject applications? I really need this income to pay rent while I look for another job.
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Brady Clean
Yes, Washington ESD can definitely deny unemployment claims for several reasons. The most common are: 1) Quitting without good cause, 2) Getting fired for misconduct, 3) Not meeting the work/wage requirements, 4) Refusing suitable work, or 5) Not actively searching for jobs. Since you were laid off due to business reasons, that shouldn't be an issue for you.
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Molly Hansen
•Thanks for the info! What exactly counts as 'misconduct' though? I was late maybe 3-4 times in 8 months but nothing major.
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Brady Clean
•Being late occasionally usually isn't considered misconduct unless it was excessive or you were warned multiple times. Since they cited business reasons for the layoff, you should be fine.
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Skylar Neal
I got denied initially because they said I quit voluntarily, even though I was basically forced out. Had to go through the whole appeal process which took forever. Make sure when you file that you clearly explain you were laid off due to business reasons, not performance issues.
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Molly Hansen
•How long did your appeal take? I'm already stressed about money and can't handle months of waiting.
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Skylar Neal
•Mine took about 6 weeks total but I've heard it can vary a lot depending on how backed up they are.
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Vincent Bimbach
If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status or resolve any issues, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you get connected to actual agents. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really saved me from spending hours on hold.
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Kelsey Chin
•Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true honestly.
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Vincent Bimbach
•Yeah I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Much better than calling 50+ times and getting hung up on.
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Norah Quay
The wage requirements are important too - you need to have earned at least $3,850 in your base period OR at least $2,567 in your highest quarter plus 1.5 times that amount in your whole base period. Your base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed.
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Molly Hansen
•That sounds confusing. How do I figure out what my base period is exactly?
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Norah Quay
•If you file in January 2025, your base period would be October 2023 through September 2024. Washington ESD will calculate this for you when you apply.
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Leo McDonald
•Wait I thought the base period was different than that?
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Norah Quay
•There's also an alternate base period if you don't qualify under the regular one - that would be the last 4 completed quarters. But the system checks the regular base period first.
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Jessica Nolan
You mentioned being late - was this documented? If your employer reports misconduct to Washington ESD, they'll investigate. But if the separation reason they report is 'lack of work' or 'business closure' then you should be approved assuming you meet the other requirements.
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Molly Hansen
•I honestly don't know what they'll report. My manager was pretty cool about it and said it was just business being slow, but HR handled the actual paperwork.
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Jessica Nolan
•You'll find out when you get your determination letter. If there's any issue with the separation reason, you can appeal it.
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Angelina Farar
don't worry too much about it, most people get approved if they were laid off. the system is designed to help people who lost their job through no fault of their own
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Molly Hansen
•That's reassuring, thanks. I guess I'm just anxious because I've never filed for unemployment before.
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Angelina Farar
•totally normal to be nervous! just be honest on your application and you should be fine
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Brady Clean
One thing to keep in mind - even if you get approved, you'll need to meet ongoing requirements like registering with WorkSource, conducting job searches, and filing weekly claims. The job search requirement is currently 3 job contacts per week unless you're in a training program.
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Molly Hansen
•3 job contacts per week? That seems like a lot when there aren't that many openings in retail right now.
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Brady Clean
•It includes applications, networking contacts, job fairs, interviews - not just submitting applications. And you can look at jobs outside retail too.
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Sebastián Stevens
•Yeah I had to branch out from my usual industry when I was on unemployment. Actually ended up finding a better job that way.
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Bethany Groves
The Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible btw. If you need to talk to someone about your claim, prepare to call dozens of times. I spent literally 6 hours one day just trying to get through to ask a simple question about my weekly claim.
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Vincent Bimbach
•This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - it cuts through all that phone system nonsense and gets you directly to an agent.
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Bethany Groves
•Might have to check that out if I have issues with my next claim. The regular phone system is just broken.
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KingKongZilla
Also make sure you apply as soon as possible after your last day of work. There's a waiting week where you won't get paid, but you want to get that started ASAP. And keep all your documentation from your employer about the layoff.
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Molly Hansen
•What kind of documentation should I keep? I got a final paycheck stub and that's about it.
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KingKongZilla
•Any termination letter, layoff notice, or even text messages/emails from your manager explaining the situation. Anything that shows it was a layoff and not you being fired for cause.
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Rebecca Johnston
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - got laid off from my restaurant job when they cut hours. My claim has been pending for 2 weeks now and I'm getting worried. How long does it usually take to get approved?
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Brady Clean
•If there are no issues with your claim, it can be as quick as a few days to a week. If they need to investigate the separation or verify wages, it can take several weeks.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Ugh, several weeks? I can't wait that long for money. Is there anything I can do to speed it up?
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Vincent Bimbach
•You could try calling to check on the status, but good luck getting through. Or use something like Claimyr to actually reach an agent who can tell you what's causing the delay.
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Nathan Dell
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS A JOKE! They make it so hard to get benefits even when you legitimately qualify. I had to fight for 3 months to get my benefits because some incompetent person at Washington ESD couldn't read basic paperwork.
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Maya Jackson
•What happened in your case? I'm trying to prepare for potential issues.
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Nathan Dell
•They said I quit voluntarily when I was clearly laid off due to COVID closures. Had to submit the same documents 4 different times before someone finally looked at them properly.
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Tristan Carpenter
For what it's worth, I got approved pretty quickly when I was laid off from my office job last year. The whole process took about 10 days from application to first payment. As long as your employer reports the separation correctly, you should be fine.
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Molly Hansen
•That's encouraging! Did you have to do anything special or just fill out the online application?
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Tristan Carpenter
•Just the online application. Made sure to be very clear about why I was laid off and provided all the requested information upfront.
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Amaya Watson
Quick question - do you have to be a US citizen to get unemployment in Washington? My friend is on a work visa and got laid off but isn't sure if he qualifies.
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Brady Clean
•You need to be authorized to work in the US, but you don't have to be a citizen. Your friend should be eligible if he has proper work authorization and meets the other requirements.
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Amaya Watson
•Good to know, I'll let him know he should apply.
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Grant Vikers
One more thing - make sure you understand the difference between being laid off and being terminated for cause. Laid off means the employer doesn't have enough work (which sounds like your situation). Terminated for cause means you did something wrong. The distinction matters a lot for your unemployment eligibility.
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Molly Hansen
•Right, and my manager specifically said it was because business was slow, not because of my performance. So that should count as a layoff, right?
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Grant Vikers
•Exactly. As long as that's what they report to Washington ESD, you should be approved assuming you meet the wage requirements.
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Giovanni Martello
I've been on unemployment twice and got approved both times for layoffs. The first time I was nervous like you, but it's really not that scary if you were legitimately laid off. Just be honest and thorough in your application.
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Molly Hansen
•Thanks for sharing your experience. It helps to hear from people who have actually been through it.
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Giovanni Martello
•No problem! The worst thing you can do is not apply when you need the help. Better to apply and get denied than not apply at all.
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Savannah Weiner
Just wanted to add that even if you do get denied initially, you can always appeal the decision. I know someone who got denied at first but won their appeal because the initial decision was wrong. Don't give up if the first answer isn't what you want to hear.
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Molly Hansen
•How does the appeal process work? Is it complicated?
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Savannah Weiner
•You get a notice explaining how to appeal and you usually have 30 days to do it. There's a hearing where you can explain your side of the story.
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Vincent Bimbach
•And if you need help navigating the appeal process or talking to Washington ESD about it, that's another good use case for Claimyr - they can help you get through to someone who can explain what you need to do.
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Amina Diop
I went through something similar when I was laid off from my warehouse job. The key thing is to be completely honest about the circumstances of your layoff. Since your manager specifically said it was due to slow business and not performance issues, that should work in your favor. Being late occasionally typically isn't considered misconduct unless it was extreme or you were repeatedly warned about it. Make sure to emphasize in your application that you were laid off due to lack of work, not fired for cause. Also, don't delay applying - you want to get that waiting week started as soon as possible. Keep any documentation you have about the layoff and be prepared to provide it if they ask. Most people in your situation get approved without issues.
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