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Can I get Washington ESD unemployment if I put 2 weeks notice?

I'm thinking about quitting my job but want to know if I can still collect unemployment benefits. If I give my employer 2 weeks notice and leave voluntarily, will Washington ESD approve my claim? I've been working at this place for 8 months and it's becoming unbearable but I don't want to lose out on benefits if I can't find another job right away. Has anyone successfully gotten UI after quitting with notice?

Generally no, you can't get unemployment if you quit voluntarily. Washington ESD will disqualify you for 'leaving work without good cause.' The only exceptions are if you quit for good cause like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or major changes to your job that weren't agreed upon.

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What counts as 'good cause'? My supervisor has been making my life miserable but I'm not sure if that's enough.

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You'd need to document harassment or discrimination. Just having a difficult boss usually isn't considered good cause unless it rises to the level of a hostile work environment.

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I tried this last year and got denied. Washington ESD was pretty clear that voluntary quit = no benefits. Even with 2 weeks notice being professional, they still consider it quitting. Had to appeal and everything but still got rejected.

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Mei Liu

That sucks but not surprising. The system really punishes people for trying to leave bad situations.

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Yeah it's frustrating. I was trying to do the right thing by giving notice but it hurt me in the end.

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Actually there are some exceptions. If you can prove constructive dismissal or that your employer created conditions that forced you to quit, you might have a case. But you'd need solid documentation and probably would face an adjudication process. When I had issues getting through to Washington ESD about a similar situation, I used claimyr.com - they help you get connected to actual agents who can explain your specific situation. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I don't have anything written down but there have been witnesses to some incidents.

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Emails, text messages, incident reports if you filed any, witness statements, anything showing a pattern of behavior that made continuing work impossible.

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Never heard of Claimyr before. Is it legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim issues.

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why dont you just get fired instead? then you'd definitely qualify lol

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That's terrible advice. Getting fired for misconduct would also disqualify you from benefits. Only being laid off or fired for non-misconduct reasons qualifies you.

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oh didnt know that, thought any firing worked

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I'm going through something similar right now. My workplace has become toxic but I'm scared to quit because I need the income. It's like being trapped between a rock and a hard place.

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Mei Liu

Have you tried talking to HR about the issues? Sometimes documenting your attempts to resolve things internally can help if you do end up quitting.

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Our HR department is a joke. They're buddies with management and just cover for them.

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The whole system is rigged against workers. They expect you to stay in abusive situations just to qualify for benefits you've already paid into through taxes. It's ridiculous!

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I understand the frustration, but the system is designed to provide benefits for people who lose jobs through no fault of their own. If quitting automatically qualified you, it would be easy to abuse.

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Easy to abuse? Have you seen how little unemployment pays? Nobody's getting rich off UI benefits.

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If you do decide to quit and file anyway, make sure you document everything about why you left. Washington ESD will do an investigation and interview both you and your employer. The burden is on you to prove you had good cause.

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How long does that investigation usually take? I'm worried about being without income during the process.

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on complexity. That's another reason why Claimyr can be helpful - you can actually talk to someone about your case status instead of wondering.

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I successfully got unemployment after quitting but I had to prove sexual harassment. Had emails, witnesses, everything documented. Even then it took 6 weeks of adjudication and I had to do a phone interview. Washington ESD doesn't make it easy.

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That's encouraging to hear you won your case. Did you have a lawyer or represent yourself?

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Represented myself but I had really solid evidence. If your case is borderline, you might want legal help.

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How did you handle the income gap during adjudication? That's my biggest fear.

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Have you considered looking for another job first before quitting? At least then you'd have something lined up and wouldn't need unemployment.

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I've been trying but it's hard to interview when you're working full time and your current job is so stressful.

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I get that. Maybe try to use sick days or vacation time for interviews? It's not ideal but better than being unemployed without benefits.

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Whatever you decide, don't just walk out. Giving proper notice shows you tried to be professional even if it doesn't help with unemployment eligibility. Future employers will appreciate that.

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Future employers never even check with previous ones anymore. It's all about references you provide yourself.

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That's not true everywhere. Some industries definitely do background checks and employment verification.

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I used to work for Washington ESD (different department) and can tell you that voluntary quit cases are heavily scrutinized. They look for any reason to deny because the state wants to keep costs down. Your evidence needs to be bulletproof.

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That's really helpful insight. What kind of evidence is most convincing to the adjudicators?

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Written communications from management, medical documentation if stress/harassment affected your health, witness statements from coworkers, anything showing you tried to resolve issues before quitting.

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Update on that Claimyr thing - I tried it yesterday and actually got through to talk to someone at Washington ESD within an hour. They explained my adjudication delay and what I needed to do. Worth checking out if you need to speak with someone about your specific situation.

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That's amazing! I've been trying to call for days with no luck. How much does it cost?

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The service helped me get through but I'd rather not discuss costs publicly. Check their site for details.

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honestly the job market is pretty good right now so maybe just start applying places and see what happens? might be easier than dealing with unemployment bureaucracy

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You're probably right. I've been so focused on the unemployment angle that I haven't put enough effort into job hunting.

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Don't quit unless you absolutely have to. I made that mistake 3 years ago and regretted it. Even with a good reason, Washington ESD made me jump through hoops and I was denied initially. Had to appeal and it took months to get resolved.

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Did you eventually get benefits after the appeal?

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Yes but it was a nightmare. Took 4 months total and I nearly lost my apartment. Only do it if you have no other choice.

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The 2 weeks notice thing is irrelevant to Washington ESD. They only care whether you quit voluntarily or were terminated. Being professional about it doesn't change their decision.

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Exactly right. The notice period has nothing to do with unemployment eligibility determination.

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If you're really set on quitting, make sure you understand what 'able and available' means for job search requirements. Washington ESD will expect you to be actively looking and available for work immediately after your last day.

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Good point. I assume I'd need to register with WorkSource and do the whole job search log thing?

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Yes, and you need to make sure you can prove you're ready to start work immediately. No waiting around or being picky about offers.

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My advice? Document everything starting now, look for a new job while you still have income, and only quit if you absolutely have to for your mental health or safety. The unemployment system isn't designed to help people escape bad jobs.

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That seems like the most realistic advice. I'll start documenting incidents and ramping up my job search. Thanks everyone for the reality check.

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Smart approach. And remember, if you do need to contact Washington ESD about anything, services like Claimyr can save you hours of trying to get through on the phone.

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One more thing - if you do quit and file, be 100% honest on your application about why you left. Lying about it will only make things worse if they find out during the investigation.

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Definitely planning to be honest. No point in making a bad situation worse by lying about it.

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Good luck whatever you decide. Job situations like this really suck and I hope you find something better soon, whether that's through fixing your current situation or finding a new position.

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Thanks, I really appreciate all the advice from everyone. This thread has been super helpful in understanding my options.

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