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Can I file my 2024 taxes if I owe Washington ESD unemployment overpayment?

I got hit with a Washington ESD overpayment notice last month saying I owe them $2,800 from benefits I received in 2023. I'm supposed to start paying it back but tax season is here and I'm wondering if I can still file my 2024 tax return? Will the IRS take my refund to pay Washington ESD? I already got my 1099-G form from them showing the unemployment income. Really stressed about this whole situation and don't know what to do first.

Yes, you can definitely still file your taxes! The Washington ESD overpayment is separate from your federal tax filing requirements. You're required to report all unemployment income you received on your tax return regardless of whether you later had to pay some back. The 1099-G shows what you actually received, so include that amount.

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Thank you! So even though I have to pay back some of the unemployment money, I still report the full amount on my taxes?

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Exactly. You report what you actually received in 2023. If you end up paying it back in 2025, that might be deductible on next year's return, but talk to a tax preparer about that.

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I was in the same boat last year. Filed my taxes normally and the IRS didn't touch my refund for the Washington ESD debt. State unemployment overpayments usually don't trigger federal tax refund offsets like other government debts do.

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That's a relief! I was worried they'd take my whole refund. How did you handle paying back the overpayment?

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Washington ESD let me set up a payment plan. Took about 8 months to pay off but they were pretty reasonable about it.

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Just want to add - make sure you actually owe the money before you start paying. You have appeal rights if you think the overpayment determination is wrong. I've seen people pay back money they didn't actually owe because they were scared to challenge Washington ESD.

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I looked at the notice and I think they might be right, but how would I know for sure? The calculation seems complicated.

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You can request a hearing to review the determination. They have to prove you weren't eligible for those benefits. Sometimes there are errors in their calculations or they misunderstood your work situation.

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If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to discuss the overpayment or set up payments, I had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually work for Washington ESD calls?

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Yeah, worked great for me. They handle the calling and waiting, then connect you when an agent picks up. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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Might be worth trying. I've been trying to call them for weeks about setting up a payment plan.

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wait so unemployment income is taxable?? I thought government benefits weren't supposed to be taxed. This is so confusing

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Unemployment benefits are definitely taxable income. Washington ESD should have given you the option to have taxes withheld when you filed your weekly claims.

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oh no... I never had taxes taken out. Am I going to owe a bunch of money?

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Possibly, depends on your total income for the year. You should probably talk to a tax preparer or use tax software to see what you'll owe.

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The whole overpayment system is such a mess. Washington ESD approved the benefits in the first place, then months later they decide you weren't eligible? It's like they can't make up their minds. And then they expect you to pay it back with interest!

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Are they charging interest on overpayments? The notice I got didn't mention interest.

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They don't usually charge interest if you set up a payment plan promptly. But penalties can apply if you ignore the overpayment completely.

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For tax filing purposes, here's what you need to know: Report the full amount from your 1099-G on your tax return. If you had taxes withheld from your unemployment benefits, that will show up on the 1099-G too. The overpayment doesn't change what you report for 2023 taxes.

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This is really helpful. So I just file normally and deal with the overpayment separately with Washington ESD?

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Exactly. Two separate issues that don't really affect each other.

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One thing to consider - if you're getting a tax refund, you might want to use part of it to pay down the Washington ESD overpayment. Get it taken care of sooner rather than later.

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That's actually a good idea. Better than having monthly payments hanging over my head.

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yeah I did that when I had an overpayment. Used my tax refund to pay most of it off at once.

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Make sure your address is updated with both Washington ESD and the IRS. If they can't reach you about the overpayment or your tax refund, things can get complicated fast.

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Good point. I moved last year and need to update my address with Washington ESD anyway.

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Just to follow up on my earlier comment about Claimyr - if you do need to talk to Washington ESD about your overpayment situation, that service really does help cut through the phone maze. I was skeptical at first but it worked exactly as advertised.

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How much does something like that cost?

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It's worth checking their site for current pricing. For me, getting through to resolve my overpayment issue quickly was worth it versus weeks of trying to call myself.

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I'm dealing with the same thing right now. Got an overpayment notice for $1,900 and I'm freaking out about taxes too. This thread is really reassuring that I can still file normally.

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It's so stressful isn't it? At least we're not alone in dealing with this.

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Definitely. The notice made it sound like my whole world was ending. Good to know it's more manageable than it seems.

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Pro tip: keep copies of everything related to both your taxes and the Washington ESD overpayment. If there are any issues later, you'll want documentation of what you reported and what you paid.

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Good advice. I'm definitely going to start a file with all this paperwork.

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One more thing about the appeal process - you have 30 days from the date on the overpayment notice to request a hearing. Don't let that deadline pass if you think there might be an error in their determination.

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When you say 30 days, is that from when they mailed it or when I received it?

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From the date on the notice itself, not when you received it. So check that date carefully.

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Just checked - I still have about two weeks left if I decide to appeal. Thanks for the reminder about the deadline.

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this whole unemployment system is so backwards. they make it impossible to reach anyone on the phone, then send you confusing notices about owing money back. no wonder people get stressed about tax season on top of everything else

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Tell me about it. Spent 3 hours on hold yesterday just to ask a simple question about my weekly claim.

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That's exactly why I started using Claimyr. Life's too short to spend entire days on hold with Washington ESD.

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Does anyone know if Washington state income tax treats unemployment differently than federal? I know we don't have state income tax but just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

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You're right, Washington doesn't have state income tax so you only need to worry about federal taxes on your unemployment benefits.

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Thanks! One less thing to worry about.

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Update: I called my tax preparer and she confirmed everything you all said. I can file my taxes normally and the overpayment is a separate issue. She's going to help me figure out if I should appeal or just set up payments. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Glad we could help! Having a tax professional review everything is definitely the smart move.

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Good call getting professional help. These situations can be tricky to navigate alone.

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And remember, if you need to talk to Washington ESD about the overpayment, Claimyr is there if you get frustrated with the phone system.

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Just wanted to add that I've seen people get their overpayment amounts reduced after appealing. Sometimes Washington ESD makes calculation errors or doesn't have complete information about your work history.

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That's encouraging. I'm going to review my case carefully before deciding whether to appeal.

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Yeah definitely worth looking into. I got mine reduced from $3200 to $1800 after they realized they had the wrong dates for when I went back to work.

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The most important thing is don't ignore either issue - file your taxes on time and deal with the Washington ESD overpayment promptly. Both problems get worse if you procrastinate.

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Absolutely. I'm going to get my taxes filed this week and then focus on the overpayment issue.

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Smart approach. Getting organized and tackling things one at a time makes it much more manageable.

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For what it's worth, I've been through this exact situation and it worked out fine. Filed my taxes, got my refund, paid back the overpayment in installments. It seemed overwhelming at first but really wasn't that bad.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. It's really helpful to hear from someone who's been through the whole process.

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No problem. The anticipation and worry is usually worse than the actual reality of dealing with it.

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