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Rami Samuels

What happens if I don't pay Washington ESD unemployment overpayment notice?

Got hit with a $2,800 overpayment notice from Washington ESD last month saying I didn't report some part-time work correctly from 2023. The thing is, I'm barely making ends meet right now and there's no way I can pay this back. What actually happens if I just ignore it? Will they garnish my wages or take my tax refund? I'm scared to call them because I don't want to make things worse but this is keeping me up at night.

Don't ignore it! Washington ESD has serious collection powers. They can garnish your wages, intercept your tax refunds, and even put liens on your property. The debt also accumulates interest and penalties if you don't address it. You need to either pay it, set up a payment plan, or appeal if you think the overpayment is wrong.

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How much interest do they charge? And can they really take my whole tax refund?

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Yes, they can take your entire state and federal tax refund through the Treasury Offset Program. Interest rates vary but it's usually around 1% per month.

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I ignored mine for 6 months and they started garnishing 25% of my paycheck. Had to scramble to set up a payment plan after that. Don't make my mistake - deal with it now.

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Oh god, 25%? That would destroy me financially. How do you set up a payment plan?

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You have to call them and negotiate. They usually want like $100-200 minimum monthly but you can sometimes get lower if you show financial hardship.

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I had a similar situation and couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to discuss payment options. Finally used Claimyr.com to get connected to an actual agent who helped me set up a reasonable payment plan. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me from having my wages garnished.

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Never heard of Claimyr. Does it actually work for overpayment issues?

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Yeah, it's specifically for getting through to Washington ESD agents when you can't reach them normally. Really helpful for complex situations like overpayments where you need to actually talk to someone.

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Wait, you can appeal overpayments? I thought once they said you owed money that was final. How does that work?

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You have 30 days from the date of the overpayment notice to file an appeal. If you can prove you reported everything correctly or that the overpayment was their error, you might get it reversed.

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Wish I'd known that earlier. My 30 days is probably up by now.

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The worst part is they don't care about your financial situation when they calculate these overpayments. Had a friend who got hit with a $4,000 bill because of some technicality about job search requirements. She's a single mom working two jobs and they still wanted full payment immediately.

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That's terrifying. Did she have to pay the full amount?

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She managed to get on a payment plan but it took months of calling and paperwork. The system is brutal.

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honestly the washington esd system is so messed up. they make errors all the time and then expect YOU to pay for their mistakes. i would fight it tooth and nail before paying anything

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While I understand the frustration, ignoring it won't make it go away. The collection actions are real and will impact your credit and finances.

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yeah i know but its still bs. they need to get their act together instead of harassing people who are already struggling

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Can they garnish unemployment benefits if you're currently receiving them? Like if you're on a new claim?

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Yes, they can offset future unemployment benefits to collect overpayments. It's one of their primary collection methods.

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Great, so basically you're screwed either way. Thanks Washington ESD.

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I'm going through this exact same thing right now. Got an overpayment notice for $1,900 and have been trying to reach someone at Washington ESD for three weeks with no luck. The phone system is impossible.

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. The regular phone system is basically useless for anything complex like overpayments. At least with Claimyr you can actually get through to someone who can help.

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Might have to try that. I'm running out of options and time.

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Do they report unpaid overpayments to credit agencies? That's another thing I'm worried about.

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They can report it to credit agencies, yes. It's considered a government debt and can definitely impact your credit score.

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This just keeps getting worse. Why didn't anyone warn me about all this when I was filing claims?

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Had my wages garnished last year for an overpayment. They took $400 from my $1,600 paycheck every two weeks. Nearly lost my apartment because of it. Please don't ignore this - it will only get worse.

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How long did the garnishment last? Did you ever get it reduced?

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Took 8 months to pay off the full amount. Once the garnishment starts it's really hard to stop or reduce it. You're basically at their mercy.

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same boat here. got hit with overpayment for not doing job searches correctly apparently. the whole system is designed to screw people over

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Job search requirements are so confusing. How were you supposed to know you were doing it wrong?

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exactly! they changed the rules midway through my claim and then said i owed money retroactively. makes no sense

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I was able to get my overpayment reduced by showing financial hardship documentation. Had to provide bank statements, pay stubs, and a hardship letter explaining my situation. Washington ESD did work with me once I got through to the right person, but it took forever to reach someone who could actually help.

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What kind of hardship letter did you write? I have no idea how to even start that.

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Just explained my monthly expenses versus income and why paying the full amount would cause extreme financial hardship. Be specific with numbers and documentation.

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The interest and penalties add up FAST. My original $2,200 overpayment turned into $2,800 after just 6 months because I couldn't afford the minimum payment they wanted.

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That's terrifying. So even if you're trying to pay it back, if you can't meet their minimum payment it just keeps growing?

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Yep. It's like quicksand. The longer you wait or the less you can pay, the worse it gets.

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Whatever you do, don't just ignore the notices. I know someone who had their driver's license suspended because of unpaid overpayments. Washington state can do that for certain types of government debt.

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They can suspend your driver's license?! That's insane. How are you supposed to work if you can't drive?

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That's exactly the problem. It creates a cycle where you can't work to pay off the debt because they took away your ability to get to work.

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I successfully appealed my overpayment by proving Washington ESD made the error, not me. Took 4 months but it was worth it. If you think the overpayment is wrong, definitely appeal within the 30-day window.

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What kind of proof did you need to show it was their error?

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I had screenshots of my weekly claim submissions showing I reported my work correctly. Also had documentation from my employer showing the dates and hours I worked.

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this is why i hate dealing with government agencies. they make it impossible to reach anyone and then threaten you with all these consequences. used claimyr a few months ago for a different issue and at least got to talk to an actual human being

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Seems like a lot of people have had success with Claimyr. I'm definitely going to check it out.

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yeah its way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get hung up on. actually gets you connected to someone who can help

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The payment plan is definitely the way to go if you can't afford the full amount. I pay $75 a month and they stopped all collection activities. Much better than having wages garnished.

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How did you convince them to accept only $75 a month? That seems pretty low.

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I provided detailed financial information showing that's all I could afford. They'd rather get something than nothing, so they worked with me.

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My brother ignored his overpayment notice and they eventually seized money from his bank account. He woke up one day and his checking account was empty. Don't let it get to that point.

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They can just take money from your bank account without warning?!

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Yep, it's called a bank levy. They can freeze and seize funds from your account to satisfy the debt. It's a legal process but it happens.

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Bottom line - don't ignore this. The consequences are real and they have serious collection powers. Either pay it, set up a payment plan, or appeal if you think it's wrong. But do something before the 30-day deadline passes.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. I'm definitely not going to ignore this anymore. Going to try to get through to them tomorrow and see about a payment plan.

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Good luck! Just remember to document everything and keep records of all your communications with them.

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If you can't get through on the regular phone lines, definitely consider using Claimyr to connect with an agent. For something this important, you need to actually talk to someone who can help set up that payment plan.

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I went through something similar last year and ended up working with Washington ESD on a payment plan. The key is to call them ASAP and be completely honest about your financial situation. They have hardship provisions that can reduce your monthly payment to something manageable - mine went from $300/month down to $50/month after I provided bank statements and proof of my expenses. Don't wait until they start garnishing because once that process begins it's much harder to negotiate. Also, make sure you have all your documentation ready when you call - pay stubs, the original overpayment notice, and any records of the work you reported. The collections department is actually more reasonable than people think if you're proactive about addressing it.

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