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What happens if you don't pay unemployment back - Washington ESD consequences?

I got hit with a $2,800 overpayment notice from Washington ESD last month saying I need to pay back benefits from 2023. My financial situation is really tight right now and I'm wondering what actually happens if I can't pay this back or just ignore it? Has anyone been through this process? I know it sounds bad but I'm barely making ends meet as it is.

You definitely don't want to ignore this. Washington ESD has several collection methods they can use including wage garnishment, tax refund intercepts, and they can even refer your case to a collection agency. The debt doesn't just go away and interest keeps accruing.

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How much interest are we talking about? And do they give you any payment plan options?

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Interest is typically around 1% per month on the unpaid balance. They do offer payment plans - you should contact them immediately to set one up before they start collection actions.

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I tried ignoring mine for 6 months thinking it would go away... big mistake. They garnished my wages at 25% and took my entire tax refund. Cost me way more in the long run.

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Damn, 25% wage garnishment? That would destroy my budget completely.

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The garnishment rate can vary but 25% is pretty standard for unemployment overpayments in Washington. They can also garnish bank accounts in some cases.

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Have you tried calling Washington ESD to discuss your situation? I spent hours trying to get through to someone about my overpayment case but kept getting disconnected or stuck in endless hold times. So frustrating when you're trying to resolve these things.

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That actually sounds really helpful. The regular phone system is basically impossible to navigate when you need to discuss payment arrangements.

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Can they really take your tax refund even if it's federal? I thought state agencies couldn't touch federal money.

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Yes, they absolutely can intercept federal tax refunds through the Treasury Offset Program. State unemployment overpayments are considered government debts so they have that authority.

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Well that's terrifying. Guess there's really no escaping these things once they're on your record.

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The worst part is they can also deny any future unemployment claims until the overpayment is resolved. So if you lose your job again, you're completely screwed until you pay it back or set up a payment plan.

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Wait, they can block future claims? That seems like it would trap people in a cycle where they can't get help when they need it most.

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Exactly. It's one of their main leverage tools. You can't receive any new benefits while you have an outstanding overpayment balance.

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Your best bet is to contact Washington ESD immediately and request a payment plan. They're usually willing to work with people who are proactive about resolving the debt. Don't wait until they start collection actions - it becomes much more expensive once that process begins.

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What kind of documentation do I need to provide to get a payment plan approved?

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Usually they'll want proof of income and expenses to determine what you can reasonably afford to pay monthly. Bank statements, pay stubs, that kind of thing.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but mine is only $1,200. Should I just try to scrape together the money and pay it all at once to avoid the hassle?

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If you can swing it without putting yourself in financial danger, paying it off completely stops all the interest from accruing. But don't put yourself in a worse position just to clear the debt.

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Yeah I'm torn because it would wipe out my emergency fund but at least it would be done with.

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Does anyone know if you can appeal these overpayment decisions? Mine seems wrong because I reported all my work hours correctly during that period.

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Yes, you can absolutely appeal overpayment decisions. You typically have 30 days from the notice date to file an appeal. If you have documentation showing you reported correctly, definitely pursue that route.

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Good to know. I kept all my weekly claim confirmations so I should be able to prove my case.

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The system is so broken. They make it nearly impossible to reach anyone to discuss these issues but then threaten all these harsh consequences if you don't resolve them quickly. It's like they want people to fail.

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That's why services like Claimyr exist - to cut through all that bureaucratic nonsense and actually connect you with someone who can help. Worth every penny when you're dealing with overpayment stress.

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I might have to look into that. I've been trying to call for weeks about my payment plan options.

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What if you move to another state? Can Washington ESD still pursue collection there?

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Yes, absolutely. These debts follow you across state lines. They can still garnish wages, intercept tax refunds, and pursue collection regardless of where you live.

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Figured as much. There's really no escaping government debt.

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I had an overpayment from 2022 that I couldn't pay immediately. Set up a $75/month payment plan and it's been manageable. They were actually pretty reasonable once I got someone on the phone to discuss options.

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That gives me hope. $75 a month I could probably handle. How long did it take you to get through to someone?

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Honestly it took me like 3 weeks of trying before I finally got connected. The phone system is brutal but persistence pays off.

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Can they garnish unemployment benefits from other states if you're receiving them? Like if I move and file a claim elsewhere?

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Yes, there are interstate agreements that allow states to collect overpayments from benefits paid by other states. The debt follows you through the unemployment system.

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Wow, they really have all their bases covered. No wonder people get trapped in these situations.

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The interest is what kills you. My $3,000 overpayment turned into over $4,200 because I ignored it for two years thinking they'd forget about it. They don't forget.

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That's a huge increase! The interest really adds up fast.

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Yep, and once they started garnishing my wages, they were taking the maximum amount allowed. Learned my lesson the hard way.

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I've heard they can also report these debts to credit agencies. Has anyone experienced that?

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They typically don't report to credit bureaus directly, but if they sell the debt to a collection agency, then it can show up on your credit report as a collection account.

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That's another good reason to handle this proactively before it gets to that point.

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Do they ever negotiate and accept less than the full amount owed? Like debt settlement?

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Government agencies rarely accept settlements for less than the full amount. Your best option is typically a payment plan rather than trying to negotiate the total down.

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Figured it was worth asking. Government debt is definitely different from private debt in that regard.

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The whole overpayment system feels like a trap designed to keep people in debt to the state forever. They make the rules so complex that honest mistakes become financial disasters.

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I get the frustration but ignoring it definitely makes everything worse. At least with a payment plan you're making progress toward resolving it.

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True, I just wish they made the process more accessible instead of putting up so many barriers to getting help.

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Has anyone successfully gotten an overpayment waived due to financial hardship? I've heard that's possible in some circumstances.

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Waivers are extremely rare and usually only granted in cases where the overpayment was entirely the agency's fault and the claimant had no reasonable way to know they weren't entitled to the benefits.

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So basically almost never. Got it.

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If you're reading this and have an overpayment notice, don't do what I did and stick your head in the sand. Call them immediately, even if it takes forever to get through. Setting up a payment plan early saves you so much money and stress in the long run.

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Thanks for the reality check. I guess I need to bite the bullet and start making those calls.

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Or use Claimyr to cut through the phone queue hell. Seriously made dealing with my overpayment so much easier when I could actually talk to someone quickly.

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Wish I had known about that service when I was going through this. Would have saved me weeks of frustration.

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Bottom line - they have way more collection tools than regular creditors and they will use them. Wage garnishment, tax intercepts, blocking future benefits. Don't test them on this.

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Point taken. I'm convinced I need to deal with this head-on instead of hoping it goes away.

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Smart choice. It's scary at first but once you have a plan in place, the stress level drops dramatically.

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