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Amara Okafor

Will Washington ESD take my tax refund if I owe unemployment overpayment?

I got a letter from Washington ESD saying I owe $2,800 in unemployment overpayment from last year. I'm supposed to pay it back but honestly I don't have the money right now. My tax refund this year is going to be around $3,200 and I'm wondering if Washington ESD will automatically take it to pay off the debt? I really need that refund money for bills and rent. Has anyone had their tax refund intercepted by Washington ESD for unemployment overpayments?

Yes, they can absolutely intercept your federal tax refund through the Treasury Offset Program if you have an outstanding overpayment debt with Washington ESD. This is pretty standard for government agencies collecting debts.

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Amara Okafor

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Oh no, I was really counting on that refund. Is there any way to stop them from taking it?

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You can request a hardship waiver or set up a payment plan with Washington ESD before the offset happens. Contact them ASAP to discuss options.

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happened to me two years ago!! they took my entire $1900 refund without warning. I didn't even know they could do that until I checked where is my refund and it said offset to state agency

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Amara Okafor

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Did you try to fight it or get any of it back?

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nope, once its gone its gone. but it did pay off most of my overpayment so at least that was done with

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StarStrider

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If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to set up a payment plan, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). They help people get through to ESD agents faster since the phone lines are always jammed. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. I used it when I had overpayment issues and finally got to talk to someone who could help.

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Amara Okafor

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How much does that cost? I'm already broke from the overpayment situation.

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StarStrider

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It's worth checking out their site for details, but the main thing is you can actually reach someone at ESD instead of being on hold for hours or getting disconnected.

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I've heard of this service but never tried it. Does it really work better than just calling directly?

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Sofia Torres

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The Treasury Offset Program usually sends you a notice before they intercept your refund, but sometimes people miss it or it gets lost in the mail. You should have gotten something from the Bureau of Fiscal Service about 30-60 days before your refund was scheduled.

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Amara Okafor

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I haven't gotten any notice about my tax refund being taken yet. Does that mean they're not going to take it?

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Sofia Torres

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Not necessarily. The timing depends on when your debt was submitted to the offset program and when you filed your taxes. You might still get the notice.

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This is so frustrating! They make it impossible to reach anyone at Washington ESD to even discuss payment options. I've been trying to call for weeks about my overpayment and can never get through. How are we supposed to resolve these issues if they won't even talk to us?

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Ava Martinez

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I feel your pain. The phone system at ESD is absolutely broken. You call and either get busy signal or get put on hold for 3+ hours just to get disconnected.

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Exactly! And then they wonder why people don't pay these overpayments back. Maybe if they made it possible to actually communicate with them...

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You might want to check if your overpayment qualifies for a waiver. Washington ESD has hardship waivers available if you can prove financial hardship or if the overpayment wasn't your fault. The forms are on their website under the overpayment section.

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Amara Okafor

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I looked at the waiver forms but they're confusing. Do I need to provide bank statements and all that?

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Yes, you'll need financial documentation to prove hardship. Bank statements, bills, income documentation, etc. It's a lot of paperwork but worth it if approved.

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Miguel Ramos

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Wait, can they take state tax refunds too or just federal? I'm worried about both now.

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Washington doesn't have state income tax, so there's no state refund to worry about. It's just federal tax refunds that can be offset.

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Miguel Ramos

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Oh right, I forgot Washington doesn't have state income tax. Thanks for clarifying!

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QuantumQuasar

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I went through this same thing last year. My advice is to be proactive and contact ESD before they take your refund. Once they have it, getting any of it back is nearly impossible even if you qualify for a partial waiver.

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Amara Okafor

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How did you contact them? Every time I try calling I get nowhere.

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QuantumQuasar

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I actually used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Took about 20 minutes to get connected to an actual person instead of waiting on hold for hours. Made all the difference in my case.

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Zainab Omar

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Just a heads up - if you're married and file jointly, they can take the entire refund even if only one spouse owes the overpayment. The non-owing spouse has to file for injured spouse relief with the IRS to get their portion back.

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Amara Okafor

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I'm single so that doesn't apply to me, but good to know for others reading this.

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This happened to us! My husband's overpayment meant they took our whole $4,000 refund. Had to file injured spouse forms and it took 8 months to get my half back.

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Yara Sayegh

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The overpayment system is such a scam. Half the time these overpayments are their mistakes anyway from incorrect information or system glitches, but they still expect you to pay it back immediately.

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I agree it's frustrating, but if you can prove the overpayment was due to agency error, you can get it waived. The burden of proof is on you though.

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Yara Sayegh

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That's the problem - proving it was their mistake when they control all the records and documentation.

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Paolo Longo

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Can they garnish wages too or just take tax refunds? I'm worried about what else they might do if I can't pay this back.

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Yes, Washington ESD can garnish wages for overpayment collection, but they have to follow specific procedures and notify you first. They can take up to 25% of disposable income.

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Paolo Longo

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That's terrifying. I can barely afford my bills as it is.

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CosmicCowboy

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If you set up a payment plan before they intercept your refund, you might be able to negotiate keeping some of it. But you have to actually reach someone at ESD to arrange this, which is the hard part.

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Amara Okafor

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That's what I'm trying to do but the phone situation is impossible. Maybe I should try that Claimyr thing people keep mentioning.

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CosmicCowboy

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I'd definitely try it. The regular phone system is basically useless at this point.

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Amina Diallo

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does anyone know if they send a notice before taking the refund? I haven't gotten anything yet but I'm scared to check my refund status

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Sofia Torres

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They're supposed to send notice, but it doesn't always happen or it gets delayed. You can check your refund status on the IRS website - it will show if it's been offset.

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Amina Diallo

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just checked and it says offset to washington state agency for $2,100 😭😭😭 there goes my refund

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Oliver Schulz

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This whole thread is making me nervous. I have an overpayment from 2023 that I'm still paying off monthly. Should I be worried about my 2024 refund even though I'm making payments?

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If you're current on your payment plan, they typically won't offset your refund. But you should verify this with ESD to be sure.

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Oliver Schulz

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Good point, I should double check. Thanks for the advice.

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The timing of when they submit debts for offset varies. Some overpayments get submitted right away, others take months or even over a year. There's no way to predict it unfortunately.

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Amara Okafor

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So I might be safe this year but not next year? This is so stressful not knowing.

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Exactly why it's better to be proactive and try to resolve it before it gets to that point.

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Javier Cruz

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I'm dealing with a similar situation and finally got through to ESD using Claimyr last week. The agent was able to set up a payment plan that prevents them from taking my refund as long as I stay current. Worth every penny to avoid losing my entire refund.

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Amara Okafor

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That gives me hope! I'm definitely going to try Claimyr tomorrow. Did the agent explain why the overpayment happened in the first place?

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Javier Cruz

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In my case it was because I didn't report some part-time work correctly on my weekly claims. The agent walked me through exactly what happened and how to avoid it in the future.

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Emma Wilson

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Just remember that even if they take your refund, you can still appeal the overpayment itself. The offset and the appeal process are separate things. You have rights even after they've collected the money.

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Amara Okafor

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That's good to know. I was thinking once they took the money that was it.

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Emma Wilson

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Nope, you can still fight it. Though it's obviously better to resolve things before they get to that point if possible.

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