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What if I already paid taxes on unemployment - Washington ESD refund question

I received unemployment benefits last year and had taxes withheld from my weekly payments through Washington ESD. When I filed my 2024 tax return, I ended up owing additional taxes on the unemployment income even though I thought I had already paid enough. Now I'm confused about whether I can get a refund or adjustment. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? I'm not sure if I should contact Washington ESD or the IRS about this.

The tax withholding from Washington ESD is just an estimate, not the final amount you'll owe. If you had 10% withheld but your actual tax rate was higher, you'd still owe more when filing. You should have received a 1099-G form from Washington ESD showing the total benefits and taxes withheld.

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I did get the 1099-G but I guess I didn't understand that the withholding might not be enough. So there's no way to get additional money back from Washington ESD?

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No, Washington ESD just acts as a middleman for the withholding. They send what you requested to the IRS on your behalf. The actual tax calculation happens when you file your return.

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same thing happened to me! I thought having them take out taxes would cover everything but I still owed like $800 more

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Exactly! It's so frustrating. Did you end up just paying the extra amount?

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yeah had to set up a payment plan with the IRS. wish someone had explained this better when I was filing my weekly claims

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This is a common misunderstanding. The 10% federal withholding option through Washington ESD is a flat rate, but your actual tax liability depends on your total income, filing status, and tax bracket. If you made other income during the year or are in a higher tax bracket, you'll owe more.

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That makes sense. I did have some part-time work income too. I wish there was a way to calculate the right withholding amount ahead of time.

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You could use the IRS withholding calculator online or consult a tax professional. For future unemployment claims, you might want to set aside additional money for taxes beyond what Washington ESD withholds.

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I've been dealing with Washington ESD tax issues for months trying to get answers about my 1099-G form. Their phone lines are always busy and I can never get through to talk to someone who can help with tax questions. Has anyone found a way to actually reach them about this stuff?

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I had the same problem until I found Claimyr.com - they help you get through to Washington ESD agents by phone. I was able to get my 1099-G questions answered within a few days. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Really? I've been trying to call for weeks. How does that service work exactly?

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They basically handle the calling process for you and connect you directly with an Washington ESD agent when one becomes available. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected.

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Wait, I'm confused. If I elected to have taxes taken out of my unemployment, shouldn't that cover what I owe? Why would I still owe more money?

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Because the withholding is just an estimate. Think of it like having taxes taken out of a regular paycheck - sometimes you get a refund, sometimes you owe more when you file your return.

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Oh I see. So unemployment taxes work the same way as regular job taxes. That actually makes sense now.

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The Washington ESD withholding system is basically useless tbh. I had them take out the maximum and still owed over $1000 when I filed. They should offer better guidance on this.

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Yeah it's really misleading. I feel like they should warn people that the withholding might not be enough.

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To be fair, Washington ESD can't predict your total tax situation since they don't know about your other income sources. The withholding is just a convenience option.

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Can you change your withholding amount after you've already been receiving benefits? I'm worried I'm going to be in the same situation next year.

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Yes, you can update your withholding preferences in your Washington ESD account online. You can start or stop withholding, or change the amount for future payments.

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Good to know! I'll log in and adjust mine. Thanks for the info.

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I never had taxes withheld from my unemployment and just set aside money myself. Ended up being about the same as if I had used the withholding option but at least I had more control over it.

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That's probably the smarter approach. How much did you set aside percentage-wise?

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I put away about 15% of each payment, which ended up being pretty close to what I actually owed. Depends on your tax situation though.

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the whole tax thing with unemployment is so confusing. wish they explained it better when you first file your claim

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Agreed! I would have prepared differently if I had understood how it actually works.

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Just went through this same issue. The key thing to understand is that unemployment benefits are taxable income just like wages. Washington ESD withholding is optional and may not cover your full tax liability depending on your circumstances.

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That's a helpful way to think about it. I guess I was treating it more like a separate thing rather than regular income.

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Exactly. For tax purposes, unemployment is just another form of income that gets added to everything else you made during the year.

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If you're having trouble getting answers from Washington ESD about your 1099-G or withholding questions, I'd recommend trying Claimyr. I used them last month to get clarification on my tax documents and it was much easier than trying to call directly.

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I keep seeing people mention that service. Is it worth it for tax-related questions?

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For me it was. I needed to get a corrected 1099-G and was able to speak with someone at Washington ESD within a day instead of waiting weeks trying to get through on my own.

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Pro tip: if you're getting unemployment benefits, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid owing a big chunk at the end of the year. The withholding option through Washington ESD might not be enough depending on your total income.

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How do you calculate quarterly payments? That sounds complicated.

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You can use IRS Form 1040ES to calculate estimated payments. It's not too bad once you get the hang of it.

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I had a similar issue but in reverse - I had way too much withheld and got a huge refund. The flat 10% rate doesn't work for everyone's situation.

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At least you got money back! I'd rather have too much withheld than owe more.

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True, but it was like giving the government an interest-free loan for months. Would have been better to have that money available when I needed it.

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Washington ESD really should provide better tax guidance when people sign up for benefits. Most people don't understand that unemployment is fully taxable income.

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100% agree. I thought having them withhold taxes would take care of everything.

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They do mention it in the application process, but it's easy to miss among all the other information. More emphasis would definitely help.

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For anyone dealing with this issue, remember that you can't get a refund from Washington ESD for taxes you feel you overpaid. The withholding goes straight to the IRS, so any adjustments have to be handled through your tax return.

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That's what I was afraid of. So basically I just have to pay the extra amount I owe?

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Right, or set up a payment plan with the IRS if you can't pay it all at once. Washington ESD is just the middleman for the withholding.

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been there! ended up owing like $600 more even with withholding. now i just save extra money on the side when im on unemployment

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Yeah that's probably the safer approach. How much extra do you usually save?

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usually another 5-10% on top of what they withhold, depending on what other income i have

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The 1099-G form Washington ESD sends should show exactly how much was withheld for taxes. Make sure you're entering that correctly on your tax return - I've seen people miss that and end up double-paying.

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Good point. I'll double-check my tax return to make sure I claimed the withholding correctly.

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Yeah, it should be in Box 4 of the 1099-G form. That amount gets credited toward your tax liability when you file.

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If you need to talk to Washington ESD about tax-related issues with your unemployment benefits, I had good luck using Claimyr to get through. Much faster than trying to call on your own, especially during tax season when everyone's calling with questions.

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I might have to try that. I still have some questions about my 1099-G form that I haven't been able to get answered.

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It's worth it if you need specific answers about your account. They connect you directly with Washington ESD agents who can look up your records.

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Bottom line: unemployment withholding is just an estimate. Whether you get a refund or owe more depends on your total tax situation for the year. Washington ESD can't predict that, so they just offer a standard withholding option.

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Thanks everyone for explaining this. I understand now that I'll just need to pay the additional amount I owe and maybe plan better for next time.

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You're welcome! It's a common confusion. Consider speaking with a tax professional if you expect to be on unemployment again - they can help you plan the withholding better.

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