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i had the OPPOSITE problem with ESD last year lol. i WASNT in school & they somehow marked me AS attending school & disqualified me. took 6 calls & 2 months to fix. double check all your weekly claims to make sure you answered the school question correctly each week?

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I definitely double-checked my answers before submitting each week. I answered "yes" to the school question and explained that I was taking evening classes that wouldn't interfere with full-time work. Maybe that's where things went wrong? Should I have answered "no" since the classes don't affect my work availability?

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Actually, that might be part of the problem. When you answer "yes" to attending school, the system often flags your claim for review because it assumes you might not be available for work. This is why many people recommend applying for Training Benefits approval before starting classes. For now, I recommend: 1. File your appeal right away (30-day deadline!) 2. Try to reach an ESD agent (using Claimyr or persistent calling) 3. Keep filing weekly claims, but be consistent with your answers 4. Gather documentation showing your availability despite school And don't get discouraged - many people successfully overturn these kinds of disqualifications when they can prove the school schedule doesn't interfere with work availability.

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This is all excellent advice. One more thing: when you file your appeal, specifically request back payment for all those weeks you were filing. If your appeal is successful, ESD should pay you for all properly filed weeks retroactively. Just make sure you don't miss any weekly filings while waiting for the appeal decision.

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Just double checking - did you get an actual determination letter for your September claim saying you were denied for insufficient hours? Or are you just assuming that's why it was denied? Sometimes claims get denied for other reasons like job separation issues.

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Yes, I did get a determination letter back in September. It specifically said I didn't have enough hours in my base year to qualify. It showed my hours and they were just under the minimum requirement.

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Great, that's important! Then yes, file a new claim now. The letter should have mentioned something about potentially qualifying in the future once your base year includes more recent quarters. The system won't automatically reconsider you - you have to initiate a brand new claim.

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One more important thing - when you file your new claim, you'll need to have your employment information ready for all jobs in the last 18 months. That includes employer names, addresses, phone numbers, employment dates, and why you're no longer working there. Also be prepared to verify your identity again through ID.me if you haven't used your ESD account recently.

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Thank you for the reminder! I do have most of that information saved from my previous application, but I'll make sure to update everything. I did the ID.me verification already for my first claim - will I need to do it again?

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If you've already successfully completed ID.me verification for your ESD account, you shouldn't need to do it again. However, keep your ID.me login information handy just in case. The system sometimes requests reverification if it's been several months since your last login.

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Based on everything you've shared, you're in a pretty strong position for the appeal. Having the written layoff notice is extremely valuable evidence. The fact that the employer is now changing their story to claim it was for tardiness, when they documented it as a layoff due to reduced work, severely undermines their credibility. One other thing to prepare for: ESD may try to say you have to repay while the appeal is pending. You can request a "waiver of collection" due to financial hardship while your appeal is in process. This stops them from taking actions like garnishing wages or tax refunds until after the hearing decision. Please come back and let us know how the hearing goes!

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I definitely will! This forum has been so helpful - I was panicking before but now I feel like we actually have a chance. I'll update after the hearing next month. One more question - should we record the hearing? I think they said we're allowed to.

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Yes, absolutely request to record the hearing! OAH records it anyway, but having your own copy is helpful. Also, take detailed notes during the employer's testimony - they often contradict themselves, which you can point out during your response. One last tip: use the exact terminology from the ESD handbook when possible. For example, don't just say "I was laid off" but instead say "I was separated from employment due to lack of work, which is not misconduct connected with the work." Using their language shows you understand the standards they're applying.

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My uncle works for ESD and he told me they always use the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters. It's just how the system works. Also, make sure you're doing your job search activities every week (3 per week) or they'll deny your benefits.

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Thanks for the reminder about job search activities! I'm already looking but I'll make sure to document everything properly.

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One more important thing to understand: After your claim is processed and investigated, you'll receive a "Monetary Determination" letter that shows exactly which wages were counted from which quarters, and how your weekly benefit amount was calculated. This usually takes 2-3 weeks. If you notice any wages missing from the determination that should be in your base year (7/1/22-6/30/23), you can request a redetermination. But they won't include wages outside your base year unless you don't qualify at all under the standard base year calculation. Just make sure to keep filing your weekly claims while waiting for the final determination. Your first payment won't process until the investigation is complete, but you'll get paid retroactively for all weeks you've properly claimed.

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This is really helpful information. I'll keep an eye out for that Monetary Determination letter and make sure to continue filing weekly claims. Hopefully my wages from January to June 2023 will be enough to qualify for a decent benefit amount. Thanks again for explaining all this!

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my cousin works at worksource and she said that most people never get audited so dont stress too much about it. but yea def keep track of everything just in case

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I've downloaded the official form from the link provided and will use that. Also planning to save screenshots of all my applications and maybe try a WorkSource workshop. Really appreciate all the tips!

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