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Last thought - if anyone is preparing for their appeal hearing, practice explaining your situation clearly and concisely. I rambled too much in my first hearing and felt like I confused the judge. Second time I was more prepared and it went much better.
I'm in a similar situation - had my appeal hearing 10 days ago and the waiting is absolutely killing me. My case was also for voluntary quit due to hostile work environment. The judge seemed to understand my situation and asked good questions about the documentation I provided. Really hoping for positive news soon! Reading everyone's experiences here is helping me stay somewhat sane during this anxious wait. Fingers crossed for both of us Malik!
Thanks for sharing your experience Zainab! It really does help to know others are going through the same nerve-wracking wait. Your case sounds very similar to mine - I also had to document a hostile work environment situation. The fact that the judge was asking detailed questions about your documentation is definitely encouraging. I've been trying to stay positive by reminding myself that a thorough review means they're taking our cases seriously. Hope we both get good news soon and can celebrate with some much-needed backpay!
Zainab, I'm so glad you shared your experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone in almost the exact same situation. The hostile work environment cases really are challenging because there's so much you have to prove, but it sounds like you did your homework with the documentation. I've been second-guessing every detail from my hearing, but you're right that when the judge is asking thoughtful questions and really digging into the evidence, that's usually a positive sign. The 10-day mark means you're getting close to that typical 2-3 week window. I'll definitely keep you posted when I hear back, and please do the same! This community has been such a lifeline during this stressful wait.
Final reminder for anyone still struggling to reach Washington ESD with questions - that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier has been a lifesaver. If you need to talk to someone about your specific situation and can't get through the regular phone lines, it's worth checking out their demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ.
I've been dealing with the same confusion! Been unemployed for 3 months and kept thinking there was some secret online portal I couldn't find. It's actually kind of relieving to know that keeping your own records is the standard process. I've been using a simple Google Sheet with columns for date, company, position, contact method, and outcome - seems to work well for staying organized. The stress of thinking I was doing something wrong was honestly worse than just maintaining the log itself.
Same here! I was spending way too much time searching through every menu on that website thinking I missed something. Your Google Sheet idea sounds perfect - I've been using a basic Word document but a spreadsheet would be so much more organized. Did you include any other columns beyond those five? I'm thinking maybe adding a "follow-up date" column might be helpful too.
That's a great idea about the follow-up column! I actually do have a couple extra columns - one for "application method" (like Indeed, company website, etc.) and another for "next steps" where I note if they said they'd call back or if I should follow up. The follow-up date column would be really useful too. I also color-code the rows - green for interviews scheduled, yellow for pending responses, and red for rejections. Makes it easy to see my progress at a glance and helps when I need to prioritize follow-ups.
I just had my RESEA meeting yesterday and wanted to add my perspective since you seem really anxious about it! First off, take a deep breath - it's genuinely not as intimidating as it sounds. My meeting was with a WorkSource specialist over Zoom and she was incredibly professional and helpful. Here's what actually happened: She verified my identity, reviewed my job search logs from the past 2 weeks (exactly as the letter stated - no need for all 5 weeks), asked about my job search approach and any challenges I'm facing, looked at my resume and gave some solid feedback, and then recommended a few WorkSource resources that were actually relevant to my situation. The whole thing took about 35 minutes even though it was scheduled for an hour. What surprised me most was how knowledgeable she was about my industry and the local job market. She pointed me toward a couple of companies I hadn't considered and even mentioned some upcoming hiring events. It really felt more like getting free career counseling than being interrogated about my eligibility. Just make sure you have your 2 weeks of job search logs well-organized, be ready to talk honestly about your job search strategy, and have your resume available to share on screen. Since you're already keeping detailed records and actively job searching, you're going to do just fine!
This is so reassuring to hear from someone who just went through it yesterday! I've been working myself up about this for no reason it seems. It's really helpful to know that they actually have good knowledge about different industries and the local job market - that could end up being more valuable than I initially thought. The fact that it only took 35 minutes even though it was scheduled for an hour is encouraging too. I feel much better prepared now knowing exactly what to expect. Thanks for taking the time to share your fresh experience!
Just had my RESEA meeting last week and wanted to add another perspective! Mine was actually really productive - the specialist took time to understand my background and career goals, not just check boxes. She reviewed my 2 weeks of job search logs (stick with what the letter says, that's really all they need), but what made it valuable was the discussion about my search strategy. She helped me identify that I might be limiting myself geographically and suggested some remote opportunities in my field I hadn't considered. We also went over my LinkedIn profile during the screen share portion and she gave me some tips for optimizing it. The meeting ran about 40 minutes and ended with her sending me a follow-up email with links to several relevant job postings and a WorkSource workshop on interviewing skills. Honestly, it felt like having a free session with a career coach who actually knows the local market. Just be genuine about your efforts and open to their suggestions - sounds like you're already doing great with your documentation and active searching!
Thanks everyone for all the detailed explanations! This thread answered way more questions than I expected. Sounds like the base period is pretty standardized but there are backup options if needed.
This is such a comprehensive thread! I'm in a similar situation where I had some employment gaps and was worried about qualifying. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like the 4-quarter base period system is actually more flexible than I initially thought. The alternate base period option could be really helpful for people like us who had more recent work. I'm definitely going to gather all my wage information from the past year and a half before I file my claim. Thanks for breaking down all the different scenarios - this is way more helpful than the official Washington ESD website!
Oliver Schulz
One more important point: During your appeal hearing, focus exclusively on the facts related to your separation. Many claimants make the mistake of going off on tangents about other workplace issues or how unfair the company was in general. The judge only cares about: 1. The actual reason you were separated 2. Whether that reason constitutes misconduct If the employer claimed you abandoned your job, they need to show you were absent without approval and failed to follow call-in procedures. Your evidence showing a "staff reduction" directly contradicts this. Also, if your claim is initially denied due to the employer's statements, you can still receive all back benefits if you win on appeal. Make sure to continue filing your weekly claims while waiting for the appeal decision!
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Keisha Johnson
•Thank you for this additional advice. I'll be sure to stick to the specific facts about my separation and not get sidetracked. And I'll definitely keep filing my weekly claims even if I get denied initially. I appreciate everyone's help with this!
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Lauren Johnson
I went through something very similar last year and it's infuriating when employers outright lie to avoid their UI tax increases. The good news is you have excellent documentation - that termination letter saying "staff reduction" is going to be your strongest piece of evidence. A few things that helped me during my appeal: 1. Create a timeline showing exactly what happened leading up to your termination, including dates of the policy change discussions and your questioning of it 2. Print out those text messages and emails - don't just rely on showing them on your phone during the hearing 3. If you have any witnesses who can verify the real reason (coworkers who were also affected by the hour cuts), consider asking if they'd be willing to testify The fact that your employer is claiming "job abandonment" when you were clearly terminated makes their lie pretty obvious. Job abandonment means you just stopped showing up - but you have a termination letter! That contradiction alone should raise red flags for the adjudicator. Stay calm during the process and stick to the facts. You've got this - employers who lie like this usually get caught when faced with actual documentation.
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Nia Wilson
•This is really solid advice, especially about creating a timeline. I hadn't thought about asking coworkers to testify, but there were actually two other people in my department who were also affected by the hour cuts and witnessed the whole situation unfold. Do you know if they can testify remotely or do they have to appear in person at the hearing? I don't want to put them in an awkward position with potential retaliation from our former employer.
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