Why is SS asking for last year's income for spousal benefits starting now? Will my 2024 Schedule C delay my payments?
Just submitted my application for Social Security spousal benefits online and I'm confused about something. I'm under my FRA (Full Retirement Age) and they're asking for my income from LAST year even though I'm applying to start benefits THIS month? Does that make any sense? I only earned about $850 from part-time consulting work last year (yeah, not exactly rolling in the dough 😅) so I don't think it would affect anything anyway. But now they're saying I need to submit my Schedule C for 2024, which I obviously don't have yet since I haven't filed my taxes. Probably won't have everything ready for at least another month. So here's what I'm stressing about - does this mean my spousal benefits are on hold until I can send in this document and get it approved? And if I don't get approved until, say, March, will I still get retroactive payments starting from January when I applied? Really hoping I don't lose those months of payments because the SSA wants paperwork I literally cannot provide yet!
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Luca Greco
They ask about last year's income because they're trying to determine if you'll be subject to the earnings test. Since you're under FRA, Social Security has limits on how much you can earn while collecting benefits. For 2025, I believe the limit is around $23,000 before they start withholding benefits. If you only made $850 last year, you're well under the threshold and shouldn't worry. When you send in your Schedule C, your benefits will be processed, and yes, you WILL get paid retroactively to January (your filing date). The SSA is just covering their bases by verifying your income.
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Zara Malik
•That's such a relief about the retroactive payments! Do you think I should call to explain my situation? I'm worried it'll just sit there unprocessed until they get the Schedule C.
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Nia Thompson
same thing happened to me but with w2 income they wanted. took forever to get approved but i did get all my back pay from when i first applied 👍
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Zara Malik
•Thanks for sharing! How long did your approval process take? I'm trying to figure out how to budget until these payments start coming in.
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Mateo Rodriguez
The SSA is absolutely ridiculous with their requirements sometimes!! They KNOW your 2024 Schedule C isn't available yet, but they still demand it! This is why people get so frustrated with them. You have two options: 1) Wait until you file your taxes and send the Schedule C, which WILL delay your benefits but you'll get retroactive payments, or 2) Call them and explain the situation to see if they'll accept something else like bank statements or 1099s. GOOD LUCK getting through on the phone though. I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone about my survivors benefits last month. Kept getting disconnected after waiting for hours!
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Aisha Hussain
•I found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to SSA in under 30 minutes when I had a similar issue with my spousal application. They basically call SSA for you and connect you once an agent is on the line. Saved me hours of frustration! You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or their website claimyr.com. Totally worth it for situations like this where you need to actually talk to someone.
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GalacticGladiator
Be careful about the earnings test! If you're planning to earn income in 2025 while collecting spousal benefits before your FRA, they'll reduce your benefits $1 for every $2 you earn above the annual limit. That's probably why they're asking. For your Schedule C issue, submit your application now anyway and include a note explaining you'll provide the Schedule C as soon as your taxes are filed. They should process your claim with that understanding, but your first payment might be delayed. However, benefits will be paid retroactively to your application month (January). Also, make sure you understand how taking spousal benefits before your FRA permanently reduces the amount. Have you compared what you'd get by waiting until FRA?
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Ethan Brown
•This is why I got so confused with SS rules! I thought the earnings test was only for retirement benefits, not spousal? Everything I read gives different info!
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Ethan Brown
wait i'm confused about something. are you getting spousal benefits based on your own spouse's record? or are these widow benefits? cause those are different programs i think. my mom got widow benefits and didn't have to send in any income proof so maybe you applied for the wrong thing??
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Zara Malik
•No, these are regular spousal benefits based on my husband's record - he's already collecting his retirement. He's older than me so he's past his FRA, but I'm still a few years away from mine. Not widow benefits (thankfully!).
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Yuki Yamamoto
When I applied for my benefits I had the same problem but with W2 income instead of self-employment. Called and called for weeks and couldn't get through to anyone. My daughter finally helped me figure out I could upload a note to my mySSA account explaining I'd send the tax documents once I had them. My claim was still delayed about 6 weeks but I did eventually get all my back pay from my application date. The worst part was not knowing if I was doing the right thing or if my application was just sitting there ignored. The lack of communication from SSA is really stressful.
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Zara Malik
•That's a great idea about uploading a note to my account! I didn't realize I could do that. I'll try that approach rather than waiting on hold forever. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Luca Greco
To clarify for everyone: YES, the earnings test applies to ALL Social Security benefits taken before FRA - retirement, spousal, and survivor benefits. The 2025 limit is $22,320 if you're under FRA the whole year. They withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 earned above that limit. For the original poster: Since you earned so little last year and presumably will earn a similar amount this year, this won't affect you. But the SSA needs to verify that with documentation, hence the Schedule C request. You should be able to call and explain you don't have the Schedule C yet. They may accept alternative documentation or place a note on your record. And yes, once approved, you'll receive retroactive benefits to your application date.
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Nia Thompson
•thx for explaining! wish the ssa website made this clearer!
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GalacticGladiator
Just out of curiosity, have you considered waiting until your FRA to claim spousal benefits? The reduction for claiming early can be substantial - up to 35% less if you claim at 62 vs. FRA. Each year you wait, the monthly amount increases. Of course, there's the trade-off of getting smaller checks sooner versus larger checks later.
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Zara Malik
•We actually did the math on this. Even with the reduction, I'd need to live past 82 for waiting to be the better financial choice in my specific situation. Plus we have some short-term expenses coming up, so the immediate income helps more than a larger amount later would. But it's definitely something everyone should calculate for their own situation!
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