I'm a retired Social Security claims specialist, and I can confirm what many others have shared here - you would indeed receive 82.5% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) as your survivor benefit if you claim at age 62, NOT his current reduced benefit amount. This is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security. The survivor benefit calculation is completely independent of what the deceased spouse was actually receiving. It's based solely on their PIA and your age when you claim the survivor benefit. Given your situation, here's what I'd recommend: Get a written benefit estimate from SSA showing both your projected retirement benefit at 62 and your projected survivor benefit. When you call, be very specific and ask for a "survivor benefit estimate at age 62 based on husband's PIA." Don't let them give you verbal estimates - insist on written documentation. Also, document everything from your conversations with SSA representatives, including names and dates. The rules are complex and unfortunately not all representatives fully understand survivor benefit calculations. My heart goes out to you both during this difficult time. Having accurate benefit projections will help you make the best decision for your family's circumstances.

I'm so sorry you're going through this difficult situation. Based on my understanding from dealing with similar circumstances in my family, the survivor benefit calculation is indeed based on your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not what he's currently receiving after his early retirement reduction. When you claim survivor benefits at 62, you would receive approximately 82.5% of his full PIA. This is because survivor benefits have their own reduction schedule that's much more favorable than regular retirement benefit reductions. So even though your husband took about a 30% reduction by claiming at 62, your survivor benefit would only be reduced by about 17.5%. I'd strongly suggest getting this in writing from SSA. When you call, ask specifically for a "written survivor benefit estimate showing the monthly amount at age 62 based on spouse's Primary Insurance Amount." Having worked with SSA before, I've found that being very specific with your language helps ensure you get accurate information. Given your husband's health situation and your desire to spend time together, claiming your own retirement benefit at 62 now might make sense - especially knowing that you could later switch to the higher survivor benefit if needed. Wishing you both strength and clarity during this challenging time.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Based on what others have shared, it sounds like you might actually be okay filing in March since your January-June earnings ($29K) would likely be under the 2025 limit. But I wanted to add something I learned when my mom went through this - make sure to ask SSA about the monthly earnings test option too. In addition to the annual earnings limit, there's also a monthly test that can sometimes be more favorable if your earnings vary throughout the year. For any month where you earn less than 1/12th of the annual limit (so probably under $4,900/month for 2025), you can receive your full survivor benefit for that month regardless of your annual total. This might give you more flexibility if you have any lower-earning months or can time things like bonuses or vacation payouts. Definitely worth asking about when you call SSA!

I'm really sorry for your loss. This is such a difficult time to be dealing with these complex financial decisions on top of everything else you're going through. From what I've learned in my own research (though I haven't been in your exact situation), the key seems to be that you're right at the borderline where this could work in your favor. With a $58K annual salary, your January-June earnings would be roughly $29K, which should be well under the projected 2025 earnings limit of around $59K. One thing I'd suggest is also looking into whether you have any control over the timing of income in those first six months - like deferring bonuses, taking unpaid time off, or adjusting overtime if possible. Even small adjustments could give you more buffer room under the limit. The other commenters have given great advice about calling SSA for a personalized calculation. Given that you're so close to the threshold, it's definitely worth getting an official answer rather than guessing. The peace of mind alone would be worth the effort of getting through to them. Best of luck with whatever you decide - there's no wrong choice here, just different trade-offs between getting benefits sooner versus avoiding any potential complications.

After you get this sorted out, you might want to check if you made the optimal claiming decision. At FRA, you receive 100% of your primary insurance amount (PIA), but each year you delay past FRA (up to age 70) adds 8% in delayed retirement credits. If you're in good health and have other income sources, sometimes it's more beneficial to delay even past FRA. Just something to consider for others reading this thread - in your case, definitely claim those retroactive benefits!

Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a benefits counselor and see this situation frequently. Miguel, you're definitely entitled to those 4 months of retroactive benefits. When you call SSA, be very specific and say "I want to request retroactive Social Security retirement benefits back to my full retirement age." Sometimes it helps to reference the SSA Program Operations Manual (POMS) section RS 00615.003 if the representative seems unsure. Also, don't be discouraged if the first person you talk to doesn't seem knowledgeable - ask to speak with a supervisor or technical expert if needed. The retroactive payment typically processes within 30-45 days once approved. Make sure to keep documentation of your request!

does anyone know how much theyll take back if you go over? is it like dollar for dollar or some weird calculation?

Thanks everyone for your help! After checking my W-2 more carefully, I see the auto allowance is included in Box 1, so it does count toward my earnings. I calculated that I exceeded the limit by about $3,200, which means SSA will probably withhold around $1,600 of my benefits based on the $1-for-$2 rule. I called my employer and confirmed the auto allowance is considered additional compensation, not a direct reimbursement of expenses. I'm going to try using that Claimyr service to reach SSA and ask about my options. Would it be better to proactively pay back some benefits now, or wait for them to send me a notice? I'd rather deal with this before filing my taxes if possible.

Just wanted to add something important that might affect your sister - if she's working at all while on SSDI (even part-time under the SGA limits), she should be aware that the earnings test for retirement benefits works differently than SSDI work rules. Once she converts to retirement benefits at her FRA (67 for someone born in 1960), there's no limit on how much she can earn from work. But if she decides to take early retirement before her FRA, different earnings limits would apply. Since she's only turning 65 this year and her FRA is 67, she'll continue on SSDI for two more years with the same work restrictions until the automatic conversion happens.

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation with my mom who's been on SSDI for 6 years and is turning 64 next month. Reading through all these responses, I'm realizing I need to figure out her exact FRA since it sounds like the conversion won't happen at 65 like I assumed. One question I haven't seen addressed - does SSA send any kind of annual statement or summary to SSDI recipients like they do for people who haven't filed for benefits yet? My mom used to get those statements in the mail before she went on disability, but I don't think she's gotten one since. Would be helpful to have that information to plan ahead for the conversion.