Does SSDI count retirement contributions toward $1550 SGA limit? Worried about son's new school job
My daughter has been on SSDI for about 3 years due to her severe anxiety and cognitive processing issues. She recently got a part-time cleaning position with our local elementary school (so proud of her progress!) but now I'm worried about her benefits. I know the 2025 SGA limit is $1550 per month before they'll terminate her SSDI, but I'm confused about HOW they calculate income. Here's the situation: Her most recent paycheck shows $762 as "Taxable Gross" but $835 as "Retirement Gross" because the school takes out $73 each paycheck for their mandatory state pension system. She gets paid twice monthly, so that puts her right at the edge of the limit depending on which number SSA uses. Does anyone know if SSA counts the full "Retirement Gross" including the pension contribution, or just the "Taxable Gross" that she actually receives? She's really anxious about accidentally going over the SGA limit and losing her benefits. The job is great for her mental health but she absolutely still needs her SSDI and Medicare.
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Aisha Rahman
SSA looks at gross earnings BEFORE any deductions when calculating SGA. So unfortunately they would count the full $835 amount, not the $762. That would put her at $1670 monthly which is above the $1550 SGA limit. I'd recommend she reduce her hours slightly to stay under the threshold, or look into whether she qualifies for any income exclusions like Impairment Related Work Expenses that could bring her countable income down. Hope this helps!
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Mateo Perez
•Oh no, that's what I was afraid of! I didn't realize they count the retirement contribution too. She really loves this job - do you know if there's any grace period or if they just immediately terminate benefits the first month she goes over?
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CosmicCrusader
i think the other commenter is wrong. my nephew is on ssdi and works part time. from what i understand they look at what u actually TAKE HOME not what goes into retirement. at least thats what his caseworker told us last yr. maybe call and ask to be sure tho
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Ethan Brown
•This is incorrect information. Social Security absolutely counts gross earnings before deductions when determining SGA. Please don't spread misinformation that could cause someone to lose their benefits.
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Yuki Yamamoto
While the previous responses contain some helpful information, I'd like to clarify a few important points about SSDI and the Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) limit: 1. SSA absolutely counts GROSS earnings before ANY deductions (taxes, retirement, health insurance, etc.). This means they would count the full $835 amount, not the $762. 2. However, your daughter may be eligible for certain deductions that could help keep her below the SGA limit: • Impairment-Related Work Expenses (IRWEs) - expenses related to her disability that allow her to work • Subsidy - if she receives extra support or supervision at work • Special Conditions - if her work is worth less than what she's being paid 3. There is a Trial Work Period (TWP) that allows her to test her ability to work for 9 months while keeping full benefits, regardless of earnings. 4. After the TWP, there's a 36-month Extended Period of Eligibility where benefits can be reinstated in any month earnings fall below SGA. I strongly recommend scheduling an appointment with an SSA claims representative to discuss her specific situation and work incentives that might apply to her case.
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Mateo Perez
•Thank you so much for this detailed information! I had no idea about the Trial Work Period or IRWEs. Do you know what kind of documentation we'd need to claim IRWEs? She does take medication for her anxiety and sees a therapist twice monthly which helps her maintain employment.
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Carmen Ortiz
Everyone's right that SSA counts the gross amount before deductions for retirement. But what nobody's mentioned is that most school districts are exempt from Social Security taxes and instead pay into their own pension systems. This is important because if your daughter isn't paying into Social Security at this job, the rules might be different. Check her paystub - if there's no FICA tax being taken out, you should definitely speak with an SSA representative about how they treat non-covered employment for SSDI recipients. The rules get complicated in these situations.
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Mateo Perez
•You're right! I just checked her paystub and there's no Social Security tax being taken out, just the state retirement system. I didn't realize this could make a difference. This is getting really complicated...
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Andre Rousseau
My son went through exactly this last year!!!! His SSDI got terminated when he went over by like $50 for THREE months and it was a NIGHTMARE getting it back. Even though he eventually reduced his hours, we had to appeal and it took FOREVER. Plus his Medicare got messed up and he couldn't get his meds. NOT WORTH IT!!!
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Mateo Perez
•That sounds terrible! How long did the appeal take? I'm worried about her medication coverage too if something goes wrong.
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Zoe Papadakis
have you tried calling SSA directly? good luck with that lol. i spent 4 hours on hold last week and got disconnected twice. their phone system is the WORST!
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Aisha Rahman
•I had the same experience trying to reach them about my disability review. After wasting days trying to get through, I found this service called Claimyr that got me connected to an SSA agent in under 15 minutes. It basically navigates their phone system and waits on hold for you, then calls you when an agent is on the line. Totally worth it for important benefit questions like this. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or their website claimyr.com
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Yuki Yamamoto
To answer your question about IRWEs - for therapy and medication to count as IRWEs, you need to document: 1. That these expenses are necessary because of her disability 2. That they enable her to work 3. That she pays for them herself (not covered by insurance) 4. The actual costs Keep all receipts, get a letter from her doctor explaining how these treatments enable her to work, and submit them to SSA. They can deduct these costs from her gross income when calculating SGA. Regarding the non-covered employment (no FICA tax), this is very important. Since she's working in a school district with its own pension system, different rules may apply. This actually needs specialized attention from SSA.
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Mateo Perez
•This is incredibly helpful! She pays a $40 copay for each therapy session and $65 monthly for medications that aren't fully covered by insurance. Would those count? Her psychiatrist has definitely stated these are necessary for her to maintain employment.
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Ethan Brown
One thing nobody's mentioned is she should immediately report this job to SSA if she hasn't already. Not reporting work activity can lead to overpayments that she'll have to pay back later. Better to address this proactively than wait for them to find out during a review.
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Mateo Perez
•Yes, we reported the job when she started three weeks ago! I made sure we did that right away. I just wasn't sure about how they calculate the income with the retirement deduction.
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CosmicCrusader
maybe she could ask the school if she can opt out of the retirement thing? some places let you do that especially for part time workers
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Carmen Ortiz
•Most public school pension systems are mandatory for all employees - it's not optional like a 401(k). It's actually a replacement for Social Security, not a supplement. This is why it's so important for the original poster to get specialized advice from SSA about non-covered employment.
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