Social Security earnings limit question - OASDI taxable wages vs gross income for retiree benefits
I'm still working part-time while collecting Social Security retirement benefits (I'm 64), and I'm trying to figure out which income figure SSA uses when applying the earnings limit. My gross income and what shows up as OASDI taxable wages are different amounts - there's about $8,750 difference between them because my employer takes out health insurance, dental, and 401k contributions before calculating OASDI tax. Does anyone know which number SSA actually uses when determining if I've exceeded the annual earnings limit? My HR department wasn't helpful and I'm worried about getting hit with an unexpected overpayment notice later.
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Sofia Torres
Social Security uses your gross wages BEFORE any deductions when applying the earnings test. It's not the OASDI taxable wages amount. This is a common source of confusion! The earnings limit for 2025 is $22,320 if you're under full retirement age for the whole year, and the SSA counts your gross earnings toward this limit regardless of pre-tax deductions.
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Dylan Wright
•Thanks for clarifying! That's really disappointing though. With this calculation I'll definitely exceed the limit this year. I was hoping the OASDI amount would be what counts since that's lower. Do you know if they just automatically adjust the payments or do I need to report this to them?
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GalacticGuardian
i think its taxable wage not gross!! my brother in law works part time and collects ss and his tax guy told him its whats on his w2 box 3 (social security wages) not his gross pay!!
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Dmitry Smirnov
•Actually, this isn't correct. The Social Security Administration uses gross wages, not the Social Security wages amount on your W-2. The earnings test is based on your earnings before any deductions are taken out. This is clearly stated in SSA's own publications on working while receiving benefits. Box 3 might differ from gross wages due to certain pre-tax deductions, but the earnings test uses gross wages.
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Dylan Wright
•Now I'm even more confused!! So many conflicting answers. I'm going to have to call SSA directly I guess...
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Ava Rodriguez
This happened to me two years ago! I went over the limit by about $3000 because I counted the wrong number. SSA sent me a notice and reduced my benefits the next year to recover the overpayment. It was a HUGE hassle so definitely figure it out ASAP.
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Miguel Diaz
•I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM!!! They took back almost $2,200 from me over 6 months and never clearly explained which income they were counting. The whole system is designed to confuse us seniors if you ask me.
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Zainab Ahmed
The earnings limit for Social Security beneficiaries is based on your gross wages before any deductions, not your OASDI taxable wages. This is outlined in SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02505.001. Specifically, the earnings test counts your gross wages from employment and/or net earnings from self-employment. Pre-tax deductions like health insurance premiums, retirement contributions, or flexible spending accounts don't reduce the amount counted toward the earnings test, even though these deductions might reduce your OASDI taxable wages. If you anticipate exceeding the annual limit ($22,320 in 2025 for beneficiaries under FRA), you should proactively contact Social Security to report your expected earnings to avoid a surprising overpayment notice later.
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Dylan Wright
•Thank you for the detailed explanation and even citing the specific policy! This makes it crystal clear. I'll need to adjust my work hours for the rest of the year then. Really appreciate the help.
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Connor Gallagher
I've been trying to call Social Security for weeks to ask this exact question but can't get through to anyone. The hold times are ridiculous and half the time I get disconnected after waiting an hour+. Has anyone found a better way to actually reach a human at SSA?
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GalacticGuardian
•try using Claimyr! i found it last month when i was desperate to talk to someone at SS. you go to claimyr.com and they call SSA for you and then call you back when they get through to a person. saved me hours of waiting. they have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - it was soooo worth it for me!
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Miguel Diaz
THEYRE GONNA TAKE YOUR MONEY EITHER WAY!! The government just wants to keep us confused so they can take back what they promised us. Its all a SCAM, they use whatever number is highest to make sure they can reduce your benefits!!!!!
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Ava Rodriguez
•They're not trying to scam anyone. The rules are complicated but they're consistent. They always use gross wages before deductions for the earnings test.
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Dmitry Smirnov
One important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet: When you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), the earnings limit disappears completely. So if you're 64 now, you only need to worry about this for the remainder of this year and part of next year until your FRA month. In the year you reach FRA, there's also a higher earnings limit that applies only for the months before your birthday month. Additionally, when SSA reduces benefits due to the earnings test, they later recalculate and increase your monthly benefit amount once you reach FRA to account for the months when benefits were withheld. This is called the Adjustment to the Reduction Factor (ARF).
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Dylan Wright
•This is so helpful! I turn 66 and 4 months (my FRA) next August, so it sounds like I'll have a different earnings limit to work with next year until August? And it's good to know about that recalculation - none of the SSA pamphlets I read mentioned that they give some of it back later.
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Sofia Torres
To directly answer your last question - if you expect to exceed the earnings limit, you should proactively report this to SSA. They don't automatically adjust it based on real-time earnings data. If you don't report it, they'll eventually catch it when tax records are reconciled, but by then you might have an overpayment that needs to be paid back.
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Dylan Wright
•Thank you! I'm going to call them this week to report my projected earnings for the year. Better to have smaller checks now than deal with an overpayment later.
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