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Social Security asking about income after FRA - do earnings limits apply if I start benefits in 2025?

I'm really confused about this Social Security application I'm filling out. I reached my Full Retirement Age (FRA) back in August 2024, but I've decided to wait until February 2025 to actually start my retirement benefits (hoping for that extra delayed retirement credit!). The application is asking me to provide income estimates for 2024 AND 2025, which doesn't make sense to me. I thought once you're past FRA, the earnings test doesn't apply anymore? Why would they need my 2025 income if I'm already past FRA when I start collecting? Is this just a standard form everyone gets, or am I missing something about how the earnings limits work? I don't want to accidentally trigger some reduction in benefits when I'm specifically waiting until after FRA to avoid that whole mess. Any insight would be appreciated!

Liam O'Connor

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The SSA application system automatically asks everyone for income information regardless of your specific situation. Since you'll be past FRA when you start collecting in 2025, you're right that the earnings test won't apply to you. They simply need this information for their records and to verify you're eligible for the maximum benefit amount based on your earnings history. Nothing to worry about! Just provide accurate estimates and you'll be fine.

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CosmicCadet

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Thank you so much for explaining! That makes me feel better. I was worried I was misunderstanding something fundamental about how FRA works.

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Amara Adeyemi

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my brother went through this last year and got super stressed about the same thing!!! turns out its just part of their standard forms they ask evryone. he's making good $$ now and no reduction at ALL because hes over FRA

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CosmicCadet

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That's really reassuring to hear someone else had the same concern. I've been so careful about planning this out that I started to second-guess myself!

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This is a common point of confusion. The SSA collects this information from everyone for a few reasons: 1. To determine if the earnings test should apply (doesn't in your case since you're past FRA) 2. To calculate any additional benefit increases you might receive from continued work 3. For statistical and record-keeping purposes Since you turned FRA in April 2024, the earnings test would have only applied to earnings BEFORE April in 2024 (and at a higher limit too). For 2025, since you're starting benefits after FRA, your earnings won't affect your benefit amount at all. Just be accurate with your estimates and you'll be fine. Your benefits won't be reduced regardless of how much you earn in 2025.

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Exactly right. Also worth noting that any earnings after FRA can potentially INCREASE your benefit amount if they're higher than previous years used in your calculation. So providing accurate income information is actually in your best interest.

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CosmicCadet

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That's great to know! I'll be working part-time next year, so probably won't be enough to increase my benefit, but good to understand why they need the information.

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Dylan Wright

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SSA ALWAYS wants to know everything about your money even when they dont need to!! Its all about CONTROL and MONITORING what we do!! Careful what you tell them because they'll use it against you later!!

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This is simply incorrect. The SSA collects this information for legitimate administrative purposes as I explained above. Providing accurate information helps ensure you receive the correct benefit amount.

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Dylan Wright

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Yeah right!! My cousin's wife got asked all these questions and then they REDUCED her payment saying she earned too much!! The whole system is designed to pay as little as possible!!

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NebulaKnight

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I had this exact same concern when I filed last year! I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone at Social Security to explain why they needed my income info when I was already past FRA. The phone lines were constantly busy, and I kept getting disconnected. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real SSA agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed what others here are saying - it's just standard procedure and won't affect your benefits since you're past FRA. Saved me so much stress once I got a clear answer from an actual SSA employee.

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CosmicCadet

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Thank you for sharing that resource! I might need it if I have more questions. The SSA phone lines are definitely frustrating.

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Amara Adeyemi

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omg i need this!! waited 3 hrs on hold last month and then they hung up on me!

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Sofia Ramirez

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Just wanted to chime in that my wife just went through this process. She's 67 and still working part-time. They asked about her income too, but it was just for their records. Since she's over FRA, she gets her full benefit check regardless of her earnings. No reductions at all. I think they just use the same form for everyone regardless of age or situation.

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CosmicCadet

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Thanks for sharing your wife's experience. That helps confirm what others are saying too. Good to hear she's getting her full benefit while still working!

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Just to add some technical detail here that might be helpful: The earnings test that limits benefits only applies in these situations: 1. If you're collecting benefits before your FRA, the annual earnings limit applies ($22,320 in 2024). 2. In the year you reach FRA, a higher limit applies only to earnings in the months BEFORE the month you reach FRA ($59,520 in 2024). 3. Once you reach FRA, there is NO earnings limit, period. Since you reached FRA in April 2024, and won't start benefits until February 2025, the earnings test doesn't affect you at all. The SSA collects this information from everyone because their forms are standardized and the same information is relevant to many other beneficiaries. Also, continuing to work might actually increase your benefit amount if these earnings are higher than some earlier years used in your benefit calculation.

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CosmicCadet

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Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! This confirms my understanding. I'll probably end up working about 20 hours a week next year, mainly to stay active, but it's nice to know I don't have to worry about how it affects my SS benefits.

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CosmicCadet

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Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! I'm going to finish my application now with a lot more confidence. It sounds like this is just standard procedure and nothing to worry about since I'll be well past my FRA when I start collecting in February. Really appreciate all the explanations!

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Liam O'Connor

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Glad we could help! Good luck with your application and retirement!

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