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Edward McBride

Social Security taxation in Michigan - conflicting info from SSA agent about state tax withholding

Just started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits and I'm confused about taxation in Michigan. Everything I researched online said Michigan doesn't tax Social Security, but when I met with an SSA agent last week to finalize my application, she insisted that Michigan DOES tax Social Security and recommended I have 12% withheld! That seems really high to me, and now I'm wondering if the agent confused federal taxes with state taxes? I'm 67 and my total retirement income will be around $52,000 annually between SS and my pension. I don't want to underpay taxes, but I also don't want to have money unnecessarily tied up all year if Michigan truly doesn't tax SS benefits. Has anyone else in Michigan dealt with this? Did you have state taxes withheld from your SS checks? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Darcy Moore

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The SSA agent was likely referring to FEDERAL taxes, not Michigan state taxes. Michigan does NOT tax Social Security benefits - you're right about that. However, depending on your total income, the federal government may tax up to 85% of your SS benefits. With your combined income of $52,000, you'll likely pay some federal tax on your SS benefits. The 12% withholding is for federal taxes only. You can adjust this on form W-4V if you think it's too high. I'm also in Michigan and have federal taxes withheld from my SS (I chose 10%), but nothing is withheld for Michigan state taxes because they don't tax SS benefits.

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Thank you so much for clarifying! That makes sense - the agent must have been talking about federal taxes but didn't specify. Do you think 12% is reasonable for federal withholding with my income level? I don't want a surprise tax bill next April.

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Dana Doyle

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michigan doesnt tax ss benefits but feds do. agent was right about needing withholding but wrong if they said it was state tax. i have 10% taken out for federal and its about right for me

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Liam Duke

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THIS! The SSA folks often get confused about state-specific rules. When I started collecting SS 2 years ago, they told me Ohio doesn't tax it either, but THEY DO!!! Had to pay penalties because I believed them. Always double-check with your state's tax department.

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Manny Lark

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I'm a retired tax preparer in Michigan. Here's the deal: 1. Michigan does NOT tax Social Security benefits. This has been true for years. 2. Federal taxation of SS benefits depends on your "combined income" (AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits): - Below $25,000 (single) or $32,000 (married): No tax on benefits - Between $25K-$34K (single) or $32K-$44K (married): Up to 50% taxable - Above $34,000 (single) or $44,000 (married): Up to 85% taxable 3. With $52,000 total income, you'll likely have 85% of your benefits subject to federal tax. 4. 12% withholding is reasonable for federal taxes at your income level. The agent incorrectly stated Michigan taxes SS (they don't), but was correct that you should have federal withholding.

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Thank you for this detailed breakdown! This is exactly what I needed to understand. So I'll keep the 12% federal withholding but can rest assured that Michigan won't be taking anything additional.

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Rita Jacobs

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My sister had the EXACT same issue!!! The SSA told her Michigan taxes SS and she argued with them for 20 minutes! They need to train their people better. Michigan has NEVER taxed Social Security (at least not in the last 15 years I've lived here). But yeah, the federal government will definitely take their cut. I have 15% withheld because I have other income and hate owing at tax time.

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Dana Doyle

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thats crazy they still dont know basic state rules. they should have a cheat sheet or something

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Khalid Howes

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I had a terrible time reaching someone at SSA to fix my withholding preferences. Kept getting disconnected or waiting 2+ hours. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in under 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with confirmed Michigan doesn't tax Social Security. For federal, I'm having 10% withheld which should cover it based on my income.

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I've been having the same problem with the phone lines! I'll check out that service - thanks for sharing. I've been trying to get through for days to ask about this tax issue.

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Ben Cooper

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I was skeptical about Claimyr but it actually worked for me too. Got through in about 10 minutes when I'd been trying for days. Turns out the agent who set up my benefits had entered my address incorrectly which was causing all sorts of problems.

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Ben Cooper

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You should check out the Michigan Department of Treasury website or call them directly. That will give you the definitive answer straight from the source. But everyone here is correct - Michigan does NOT tax Social Security benefits. I retired in 2024 and specifically researched this. Michigan is actually quite tax-friendly for retirees compared to many states. They also have a pension deduction based on your birth year and filing status. As for federal taxes, with your income level, having some withholding is smart. The 12% should cover you without giving the government too much of an interest-free loan.

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Liam Duke

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The pension deduction in Michigan is VERY age-dependent though. If you were born after 1952, there are severe limits. I got HAMMERED when I retired because I was born in 1960.

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Rita Jacobs

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Has anyone tried adjusting their withholding after starting benefits? I initially had 7% withheld but want to increase it. Is it a big hassle to change it?

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Darcy Moore

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Not difficult at all. You just need to submit a new Form W-4V to Social Security. You can download it from the IRS website, fill it out (just check the box for your new withholding percentage), and mail it to your local Social Security office. Takes about 30-60 days to process in my experience.

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Manny Lark

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One thing to keep in mind: even though Michigan doesn't tax Social Security benefits, your total income will affect whether your pension is taxable in Michigan. The rules depend on your birth year and filing status. For someone born after 1952, there's a limited pension/retirement income deduction once you reach age 67. For 2025, the deduction is around $22,000 for single filers and $45,000 for married filing jointly (these numbers get adjusted). So while your SS isn't taxed by Michigan, it might affect the taxation of your other retirement income. This might be why there was confusion.

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That's a great point I hadn't considered. I was born in 1957, so I'll need to look into the specific pension rules for my age group. Definitely don't want to be surprised at tax time!

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Sophie Duck

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I'm new to this community and dealing with a similar situation in Michigan. Just want to confirm what everyone else is saying - Michigan absolutely does NOT tax Social Security benefits. I called the Michigan Department of Treasury directly last month when I was getting conflicting information, and they confirmed this on the phone. The SSA agents sometimes get state tax rules mixed up, which is frustrating when you're trying to make important financial decisions. I ended up having 10% withheld for federal taxes, which seems to be working well for my situation. For anyone else dealing with this confusion, I'd recommend calling your state's tax department directly rather than relying on federal SSA agents for state-specific tax advice. They're great with federal rules but not always up to date on all 50 states' different tax policies.

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Welcome to the community, Sophie! That's excellent advice about calling the state tax department directly. It's really frustrating that SSA agents aren't better trained on state-specific rules - this seems to be a common problem based on what everyone's shared here. Your experience confirms what I suspected - the agent was just confused about Michigan's tax laws. Thanks for taking the time to call and verify with the state directly!

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Dylan Cooper

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Welcome Sophie! This is exactly the kind of helpful advice we need more of in this community. I wish I had thought to call the Michigan Department of Treasury directly instead of going back and forth with SSA. It's reassuring to have multiple confirmations that Michigan doesn't tax SS benefits. I think I'm going to stick with the 12% federal withholding for now, but it's good to know I can adjust it later if needed. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Lilah Brooks

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This is such a common issue! I'm a new retiree in Michigan and went through this exact same confusion last year. The SSA agent I spoke with also incorrectly told me Michigan taxes Social Security benefits, which had me panicking about my withholding choices. After doing my own research and speaking with a tax professional, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - Michigan absolutely does NOT tax Social Security benefits. The confusion likely stems from the fact that SSA agents deal with federal tax issues daily but aren't necessarily experts on all 50 states' tax laws. I ended up having 11% withheld for federal taxes, which worked out perfectly for my situation. One tip: if you're unsure about the right withholding percentage, you can always start with a higher amount and adjust it down later using Form W-4V rather than risk owing money at tax time. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's so helpful to have this kind of real-world confirmation when dealing with retirement planning!

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LongPeri

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Thanks for sharing your experience, Lilah! It's really reassuring to hear from another new retiree who went through the same confusion. Your tip about starting with higher withholding and adjusting down is smart - I'd rather give the government a temporary interest-free loan than get hit with penalties. I'm feeling much more confident now about keeping the 12% federal withholding and knowing that Michigan won't be taking anything additional. This community has been incredibly helpful in sorting out what should have been straightforward information from SSA!

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I'm a newcomer to this community and dealing with almost the identical situation! I just had my SSA appointment last week and the agent told me the same thing about Michigan taxing Social Security - I walked out of there so confused because everything I'd read online said otherwise. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. It's clear that the SSA agent was mixing up federal and state tax rules, which seems to be a widespread training issue based on everyone's experiences here. I'm 65 and will have similar retirement income to yours - about $48,000 combined between SS and my pension. Based on what everyone has shared, I think I'll go with 11% federal withholding to start and can always adjust it later with Form W-4V if needed. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and clarify the Michigan tax situation. This is exactly the kind of practical, real-world advice that's so hard to find elsewhere!

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Welcome to the community, Zoe! Your situation sounds almost identical to what I went through - it's so frustrating when the people who are supposed to be the experts give you conflicting information. I'm glad this thread has been helpful for you too. The 11% federal withholding sounds like a reasonable starting point given your income level, and you're absolutely right that you can always adjust it later. It's really eye-opening how many of us have had this exact same experience with SSA agents not knowing state-specific tax rules. Thanks for sharing your story - it helps confirm that this is a systemic training issue that needs to be addressed!

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