Social Security spousal benefit less than 50% of ex-husband's - both marriages over 10 years
I've been planning my Social Security claim and just got the worst surprise. I just hit Full Retirement Age this month and filed for divorced spousal benefits based on my ex-husband's record (he's already collecting and is past his FRA). I supplied ALL the documentation for both my marriages (both lasted over 10 years) during my application. I specifically requested to claim on my higher-earning ex's record and insisted on having a telephone appointment instead of doing it online because I wanted to make sure everything was done correctly. Well, I got my award letter today and my benefit is $212 LESS per month than what should be 50% of his benefit! I'm not remarried and I meet all the requirements. What could be causing this discrepancy? Did they calculate it wrong? Should I request a reconsideration or is there some weird rule about multiple marriages that's reducing my amount?
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Clay blendedgen
Did you work enough to qualify for benefits on your own record? If so, your spousal benefit would be reduced by your own benefit amount. You only get the difference between your benefit and the spousal benefit (which would be 50% of your ex's FRA benefit). This confuses A LOT of people!
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Mary Bates
•Oh no...I didn't realize that's how it works! I did work enough for my own benefit but it's much smaller than my ex's. So I don't actually get 50% of his PLUS my own benefit? They just give me the DIFFERENCE?
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Ayla Kumar
The previous commenter is correct. You don't get both benefits added together. The rule is that you get the higher of either: 1) Your own retirement benefit, OR 2) Your own benefit plus the difference needed to reach 50% of your ex-spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) So if your ex's benefit has a PIA of, say, $3,000, then 50% would be $1,500. If your own benefit is $1,288, then you'd get $1,500 total, which is only $212 more than your own benefit. This is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security benefits. The 50% for spousal benefits is not added on top of your own benefit.
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Lorenzo McCormick
•thats such a ripoff!! the government really knows how to cheat people out of what they deserve! why even bother with all the paperwork if theyre just gonna give u pennies
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Carmella Popescu
My aunt went through EXACTLY this last year! She was expecting a windfall from her ex's record (who was a doctor), but she only got a small bump over her own benefit. SSA doesn't make this clear enough when you apply, and even some of their own reps don't explain it well. You're getting your own benefit PLUS the excess spousal amount to bring you up to 50% of his PIA (if that's higher than your own benefit).
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Mary Bates
•Thank you for explaining. I wish the SSA rep had made this clearer during my phone appointment. I feel like I was misled into thinking I'd get the full 50%. Is there any point in asking for a reconsideration, or would I just be wasting my time?
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Kai Santiago
I've been trying 2 get through to ssa for 3 weeks about a similar issue with my benefits (not ex spouse but current spouse). keep getting disconnected or wait for hours and no one picks up. so frustrating!!! how did u even get an appointment??
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Lim Wong
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Dananyl Lear
This happens all the time, it's totally normal. The letter isn't wrong, it's just that no one ever explains how the math really works. When I retired last year it took me three calls to finally get someone who could explain why my benefit wasn't what I expected.
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Clay blendedgen
One more thing to check - make sure they used the correct PIA for your ex-husband. Sometimes they calculate based on the wrong record, especially with multiple marriages. You might want to verify they used the higher-earning ex's record like you requested.
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Mary Bates
•That's a good point. Is there a way to verify which ex-spouse they used for the calculation without having to call them? The award letter doesn't specify.
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Ayla Kumar
To verify which ex-spouse they used, you'll need to call and specifically ask which record was used for your spousal benefit calculation. The award notice won't show this information directly. And regarding a reconsideration - it would only be helpful if: 1. They used the wrong ex-spouse's record 2. They calculated your own benefit incorrectly 3. They calculated your ex's PIA incorrectly It won't help if you're just unhappy with how the dual entitlement rule works (getting only the higher of the two benefits). That's unfortunately just how the law is written.
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Mary Bates
•Thank you! I'll need to call them to verify. I still think it's incredibly misleading how they present this 50% benefit. Nowhere in any of their publications do they clearly explain that it's offset by your own benefit. I spent months planning my retirement based on incorrect assumptions.
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Lorenzo McCormick
my neighbor had this EXACT same problem!!! she thought she would get $1800 from her ex but only got like $300 more than her own ss check. the whole system is designed to confuse people and shortchange us retirees!!
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Carmella Popescu
One thing to consider - did your ex-husband take his benefits early (before his FRA)? Because if YOU apply at your FRA, you get 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (what he would get at his FRA), not 50% of his actual benefit if he took reduced benefits. So the calculations can be really confusing.
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Dananyl Lear
•Actually that's not right. If her ex took benefits early, that doesn't affect her spousal benefit. Her benefit is based on 50% of his PIA at his full retirement age, regardless of when he claimed. The reduction would only be if SHE claimed early before her own FRA, which she didn't since she mentioned she's at FRA now.
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Kai Santiago
wait i'm confused...if i'm getting ssi now and my husband retires next year do i get a higher benefit? or do i have to pick one or the other?? we've been married 23 years
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Ayla Kumar
•SSI is completely different from retirement benefits. SSI is a needs-based program with very strict asset and income limits. If you're on SSI, any additional income (including spousal Social Security benefits) will reduce your SSI payment dollar for dollar after the first $20. You should talk to an SSA representative about your specific situation.
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Zara Rashid
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this confusion! This is actually one of the most common misunderstandings about Social Security benefits. What you're experiencing is called "dual entitlement" - you can't receive both your own benefit AND the full spousal benefit stacked on top of each other. Here's what's happening: SSA takes the higher of either (1) your own retirement benefit OR (2) 50% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount. If 50% of his PIA is higher than your own benefit, you get your own benefit PLUS just enough spousal benefit to bring you up to that 50% level. So if your own benefit is $1,288 and 50% of his PIA is $1,500, you'd only get $212 more per month ($1,500 total), not $1,500 on top of your $1,288. The good news is your calculation is probably correct - it's just that the "50% spousal benefit" isn't what most people think it means. Definitely call to verify they used the right ex-spouse's record though, just to be sure!
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Zoe Christodoulou
•This is such a helpful explanation! I'm not in this situation yet but I've been wondering about this exact scenario. So just to make sure I understand - if my own projected benefit at FRA is $800 and my ex-husband's PIA is $2400 (so 50% would be $1200), I would get $1200 total, not $800 + $1200 = $2000? That's a huge difference from what I was expecting. Thank you for breaking this down so clearly - I need to completely redo my retirement planning now!
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