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Natasha Petrova

SSDI spouse benefits with child-in-care - does income limit apply with joint custody?

I'm struggling to find clear info about a specific SSDI situation involving my blended family. I'm 46 and expect to go on SSDI soon due to my progressive condition. I understand my 11-year-old daughter will qualify for auxiliary benefits, but I'm confused about my current wife's eligibility. My situation: I'm in a joint custody arrangement with my ex-wife (Texas decree, roughly 49/51 split with alternating weeks). My ex would be my daughter's representative payee based on our custody arrangement. My current wife helps care for my daughter during my custody time. I've read that my wife could receive the child-in-care spousal benefit until my daughter turns 16, which would affect how the family maximum is divided (reducing what goes to my daughter/ex-wife household). My specific question: Does my wife face any income limitations for receiving the SSDI child-in-care spousal benefit? I've searched everywhere and can't find anything stating there's an income limit for this particular situation. I know there are earnings limits for early retirement benefits, but what about child-in-care benefits? This is critical for our financial planning as my disability progresses. Not looking for info about survivor benefits or retirement - just this specific child-in-care scenario with our custody arrangement.

There is no income limit for your wife to receive the child-in-care spouse benefit based on your SSDI record. The earnings limit only applies to retirement benefits taken before FRA, not to spouse benefits when caring for a child under 16. Even if your wife makes $250,000 a year, she can still collect this benefit if she's providing care during your parenting time. However, there are two important things to understand: 1. For your wife to qualify as having a "child-in-care," SSA looks at whether she's exercising parental control and responsibility. Since you have a formal custody arrangement where your daughter is with you approximately half the time, and your wife helps with care during those periods, she should qualify. 2. The family maximum benefit (FMB) would indeed be split, meaning your daughter's benefit could be reduced. The FMB is typically 150-180% of your SSDI benefit amount.

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! It's exactly what I was looking for. Just to double-check - the fact that my daughter isn't my wife's biological child doesn't change anything for the child-in-care benefit, right? And there's no minimum number of days per month my daughter needs to be in our home to qualify?

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I went through a similar situation last year and learned that stepparents CAN qualify for child-in-care benefits!! But the SSA office gave me TONS of conflicting info. One agent told me there WAS an income limit, another said there wasn't. It was SO frustrating!!! Call SSA directly to verify, but be prepared to get different answers from different people. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING - write down who you talked to and when!!!

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the local offices are always a mess with these complicated situations. they told my sister-in-law 3 different things about her disabled kid's benefits. whole system is broken

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To answer your specific question: No, there is no earnings limit for your wife to receive the spousal benefit with a child-in-care under age 16. This is different from early retirement benefits where earnings limits do apply. Regarding joint custody: SSA will look at the actual caregiving arrangement. Since your daughter is with you approximately half the time and your wife participates in her care during those periods, she should qualify for the child-in-care benefit. The step-relationship doesn't disqualify her. Be aware that all benefits paid (to your child and spouse) will be subject to the Family Maximum Benefit limit, which is approximately 150-180% of your primary insurance amount (PIA). Your benefit is paid first at 100% of PIA, then your dependents receive their proportional share of what remains up to the family maximum. One thing to note: When you apply, be prepared to document your custody arrangement and your wife's relationship with your child. Having a copy of your custody agreement will help streamline the process.

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This is incredibly helpful. I really appreciate the detailed explanation! I'll make sure to have all our custody documents ready when I apply. Do you know if my wife would need to submit a separate application for her benefit, or is it all handled through my SSDI application?

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Thanks for the tip! I'll check out that service if I can't get through. I've been avoiding calling because I've heard the wait times are ridiculous. Did you find the rep you spoke with was knowledgeable about these more complex situations?

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Your wife should absolutely apply! My situation was similar (I'm on SSDI, wife is stepmom to my son). Your ex will still get something as representative payee, but having your current wife apply maximizes benefits to your household. Just be prepared for your ex to be upset when she realizes the child's benefit amount is reduced.

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This is exactly what happened in my family too. My brother went on disability and his ex was FURIOUS when she found out the current wife's benefit reduced what their daughter received. Created a huge conflict between households. Just be prepared for that conversation...

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Wait I'm confused. Is your current wife watching your child when they're with you? Or is she actively picking them up from school and stuff? Because I think SSA looks at who's actually doing the day-to-day care. My friend's stepmom got denied because she wasn't doing enough of the direct childcare even though kid lived with them 50% of time.

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Good question - my wife is definitely involved in day-to-day care during our custody time. She helps with homework, makes meals, takes our daughter to activities when I'm not feeling well, etc. She's not just passively in the same house - she's actively parenting.

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To organize what's been said and add a few points: 1. No income limit applies to your wife's child-in-care benefit. This is one of the few auxiliary benefits not subject to earnings tests. 2. For the "in-care" requirement, your wife must exercise parental control and responsibility, which sounds like she does during your custody time. 3. Your wife will need to file a separate application (Form SSA-2-BK) after you've been approved for SSDI. 4. Document your custody arrangement with a copy of the court order. 5. Be prepared for the family maximum calculation, which will reduce both your daughter's and wife's benefit from the full 50% each to a lesser amount. 6. Important: The care-taking spouse benefit automatically ends when your child turns 16, regardless of whether your child's benefits continue.

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Great summary! One thing to add - when the child-in-care benefit ends at age 16, the wife won't be eligible for spousal benefits again until she reaches retirement age (unless she's disabled). This catches many families off guard with their financial planning.

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my cousin gets this benefit for taking care of her stepdaughter while her husband is on ssdi. they said income doesnt matter its not like retirement benefits. but the ssa people kept giving conflicting info so she had to talk to a supervisor to get it straightened out

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Seems like getting inconsistent information is pretty common. Did your cousin have to provide any specific documentation about her caregiving responsibilities?

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To address some of the follow-up questions that have come up: 1. Your wife will need to submit a separate application after your SSDI is approved. This is Form SSA-2-BK (Application for Wife's or Husband's Insurance Benefits). 2. For documentation of caregiving, SSA may want statements describing your wife's role in your daughter's care - things like helping with homework, preparing meals, taking to appointments/activities, etc. 3. The step-relationship is not an issue as long as your wife is living in the same household and providing care during your custody time. 4. There's no minimum number of days required per month, but SSA will look at the overall caregiving arrangement to ensure there's genuine parental responsibility being exercised. 5. Be prepared for possible questions about why the representative payee (your ex-wife) and the person claiming child-in-care benefits (your current wife) are different people. Having the custody agreement ready helps explain this. The most important thing is to be completely truthful about the caregiving arrangement. SSA can verify these situations if there's any question.

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This is extremely helpful - thank you for taking the time to address all these details! It gives me a much clearer picture of what to expect and how to prepare. I'll make sure we have all the necessary documentation and be upfront about our custody arrangement.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing aspect of applying for your wife's benefits. She can't apply until after your SSDI claim is approved and you're actually receiving benefits. But once approved, her benefits can be retroactive to the same date your SSDI began (up to 6 months before application). Also, since you mentioned your progressive condition, it's worth noting that if your disability gets worse and you become unable to care for your daughter during your custody time, your wife's role as caregiver becomes even more important for maintaining the child-in-care benefit. Document any changes in caregiving responsibilities as your condition progresses. Good luck with your application process!

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Perplexity.AI brought me to your URL: I am FRA collecting SS benefits. I am the Representative Payee for our 12-year-old daughter. My wife applied for "child-in-care" benefit. She earns about $2,200/month during the 10 months she works each school year. Today on phone the local-office SS agent on informed wife (below FRA) that she would only get benefits during the two months she has no pay (zero each month for 10 months), but adding wife would reduce daughter's benefit. Since that would be a net loss, we withdrew wife's application. QUESTION: Is agent correct $2,200/month means my wife gets zero "child-in-care" benefit? I understood Social Security deducts $1 in benefits for every $2 earned above the annual limit ($23,400 in 2025), but is the earnings rule different for a "child-in-care" parent?

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The agent gave you incorrect information! There is NO earnings limit for child-in-care spousal benefits on a retirement record, just like there's no earnings limit for child-in-care benefits on a disability record. Your wife can earn $2,200/month (or even much more) and still receive the full child-in-care benefit. The earnings test ($23,400 annual limit with $1 reduction for every $2 over) only applies to: - Your own retirement benefits if taken before FRA - Regular spousal benefits (without child-in-care) if taken before FRA Child-in-care benefits are specifically exempt from earnings testing. You should definitely reapply and ask to speak with a supervisor if you get pushback. The local office agent was completely wrong about this rule. @6178c5c5de5a This is exactly the kind of misinformation that people in this thread have been warning about from SSA offices!

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This is a perfect example of why it's so important to get multiple opinions and verify information! The SSA agent who told your wife she couldn't receive benefits due to her earnings was completely incorrect. Child-in-care spousal benefits are NOT subject to the earnings test, whether you're collecting on a retirement record or disability record. Your wife can earn $2,200/month (or any amount) and still receive the full child-in-care benefit. The earnings test only applies to: - Early retirement benefits (before FRA) - Regular spousal benefits taken before FRA (without a child in care) You should definitely reapply for your wife's benefits and ask to speak with a supervisor if the local office gives you pushback again. Unfortunately, these complex situations often get mishandled by frontline staff who aren't familiar with the specific rules. Since adding your wife would reduce your daughter's benefit due to the family maximum, you'll want to calculate whether the total household benefit increase is worth it. But the decision should be based on accurate information, not the incorrect earnings test rule you were given. Document this interaction and consider filing a complaint if the office continues to provide incorrect information. Other families shouldn't have to deal with this misinformation.

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This is really eye-opening to see how widespread the misinformation problem is at SSA offices! I'm new to navigating disability benefits but planning ahead as my condition progresses. It's concerning that families are getting denied benefits they're legally entitled to because of incorrect information from the very agency that's supposed to help them. @63af39cb8ad5 Do you know if there's a specific SSA publication or manual section that clearly states child-in-care benefits are exempt from earnings testing? It would be helpful to have that documentation when applying to avoid these kinds of problems. Also, is there a better way to escalate beyond just asking for a supervisor if the local office continues to give wrong information? The fact that both retirement and disability child-in-care benefits follow the same rules (no earnings limit) gives me more confidence about my wife's situation too. Thank you for sharing this example - it really reinforces what others have been saying about getting everything in writing and being prepared to advocate for accurate information.

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@1e43815cb988 Yes, there are specific SSA resources you can reference! The POMS (Program Operations Manual System) section RS 00615.742 specifically addresses child-in-care benefits and states they are not subject to the annual earnings test. Also, SSA Publication No. 05-10077 "Understanding the Benefits" clearly explains that child-in-care spousal benefits have no earnings limit. For escalation beyond supervisors, you can: 1. File a formal complaint with the SSA Office of Inspector General 2. Contact your Congressional representative's office - they often have staff dedicated to SSA issues 3. Request a written determination so you have documentation of any incorrect decisions I've found that bringing printed copies of the relevant POMS sections to appointments helps cut through the confusion. Local offices sometimes rely on outdated training or make assumptions about earnings tests that don't apply to child-in-care situations. The key is being persistent and documenting everything. Too many families miss out on benefits they're entitled to because they trust the first answer they get from an overwhelmed local office. Your proactive approach to understanding these rules before you need them is really smart!

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Thank you so much for providing those specific references! This is exactly what I needed. I'm going to print out those POMS sections and the SSA publication before we apply. It's really helpful to know about the Congressional representative option too - I hadn't thought of that avenue for getting help with SSA issues. Your point about being proactive is spot on. With my condition progressing, I want to make sure we understand all our options and don't miss out on benefits because of misinformation. This whole thread has been incredibly educational about what to expect and how to prepare. It's unfortunate that families have to become experts in SSA rules just to get accurate information from the agency itself, but at least communities like this exist to help each other navigate the system. @0d6ec4f3b517 Do you happen to know if there's a time limit on how long after an incorrect denial someone can reapply or appeal? Just in case we run into similar issues despite being prepared with documentation.

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@071e26d3777c For appeals and reapplications, you generally have 60 days from the date you receive a written denial to file an appeal (Request for Reconsideration). If you miss that window, you'd need to file a new application, but there's no time limit on reapplying - you can do it anytime. However, since @6178c5c5de5a mentioned they withdrew their wife's application rather than receiving a formal denial, they should be able to reapply immediately with the correct information and documentation. Withdrawing an application is different from being denied, so the appeal timeframes wouldn't apply in that situation. One important tip: If you do get an incorrect verbal response from SSA, always ask them to put their decision in writing. This creates an official record you can appeal if needed, rather than just having a phone conversation you can't formally challenge. The fact that this thread now has examples of the same misinformation being given for both disability and retirement child-in-care benefits really highlights how systemic this problem is. It's encouraging to see community members sharing specific POMS references and escalation strategies - this kind of information sharing can prevent other families from losing benefits they're entitled to.

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This is such valuable information for families dealing with these complex benefit situations! The distinction between withdrawing an application versus receiving a formal denial is really important - I hadn't realized they were handled differently for appeals purposes. @6c3ce4caec29 Your point about always requesting written decisions is crucial. It's frustrating that we have to be so defensive when dealing with the very agency that's supposed to help us, but clearly documentation is key to protecting our rights. What strikes me most about this entire discussion is how consistent the pattern is - multiple people reporting the same type of misinformation from SSA offices about earnings limits that don't actually apply to child-in-care benefits. It makes me wonder how many families have been incorrectly denied benefits over the years because of this systemic knowledge gap. As someone new to this system, I'm grateful for communities like this where experienced members share specific resources like POMS sections and publication numbers. It's empowering to know there are concrete steps we can take (Congressional offices, OIG complaints, etc.) when local offices provide incorrect information. Thank you all for creating such a supportive knowledge-sharing environment!

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This entire thread has been incredibly eye-opening as someone who's about to navigate the SSDI system myself. The consistent pattern of misinformation from SSA offices about earnings limits for child-in-care benefits is really concerning - it seems like this is happening nationwide, not just isolated incidents. What I find most valuable here is seeing the specific resources people have shared (POMS sections, SSA publications, escalation procedures) and the real-world examples of how these situations play out. The fact that both @3c26881dece6 (disability) and @6178c5c5de5a (retirement) were dealing with the same type of incorrect information about earnings tests really drives home how systemic this problem is. For anyone else reading this who might be in similar situations, I'm taking away these key points: - Print out relevant POMS sections before appointments - Always request written decisions rather than accepting verbal responses - Be prepared to escalate to supervisors or Congressional offices if needed - Document everything, including incorrect information you receive It's unfortunate that we have to become experts in SSA rules just to get accurate information from the agency itself, but threads like this show how powerful community knowledge-sharing can be. Thank you to everyone who's contributed their experiences and specific guidance - you're helping families avoid losing benefits they're legally entitled to receive.

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This thread has been a masterclass in navigating SSA bureaucracy! As someone completely new to disability benefits, I'm struck by how many knowledgeable community members have shared their hard-won expertise here. The systematic misinformation about earnings limits for child-in-care benefits is honestly shocking - it's clear this isn't just a few undertrained agents but a widespread knowledge gap that's costing families real money. The fact that @6178c5c5de5a was told to withdraw their application based on completely incorrect information is infuriating. I'm bookmarking this entire discussion and especially the POMS references that @0d6ec4f3b517 shared. The practical advice about bringing printed documentation to appointments and always requesting written decisions feels essential for anyone dealing with these complex family situations. What really stands out is how this community has turned frustrating individual experiences with SSA misinformation into actionable guidance for others. The combination of specific regulatory references, escalation strategies, and real-world examples creates a resource that's probably more reliable than what many people get from their local SSA offices. That's both encouraging and deeply concerning about the state of the system itself. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge so generously - you're genuinely helping families get benefits they're entitled to receive.

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As someone who works with disability benefits professionally, I want to emphasize that this thread perfectly illustrates why families need to be prepared with documentation when dealing with SSA. The misinformation about earnings limits for child-in-care benefits is unfortunately very common - I see it regularly in my practice. A few additional resources that might help others in similar situations: 1. SSA's "Red Book" (Publication 64-030) has a clear section on work incentives that explains child-in-care benefits are exempt from earnings tests. 2. If you're getting conflicting information, ask the SSA representative to cite the specific regulation they're referencing. Often they'll realize they're applying the wrong rule. 3. Consider contacting your local SOAR program (SSI/SSDI Outreach, Access, and Recovery) - they have trained staff who can help navigate these complex applications. The key takeaway from both @3c26881dece6's SSDI situation and @6178c5c5de5a's retirement situation is that child-in-care spousal benefits follow the same rule regardless of which type of record they're based on - no earnings limit applies. This is a fundamental principle that SSA staff should know, but clearly many don't. Don't let incorrect information from local offices cost your family thousands of dollars in benefits. Be persistent, document everything, and don't hesitate to escalate when you know you're right.

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Thank you for sharing these additional professional resources! As someone just starting to learn about disability benefits, having access to the "Red Book" and SOAR program information is incredibly valuable. Your point about asking SSA representatives to cite specific regulations is brilliant - it puts the burden back on them to justify their decisions with actual policy rather than assumptions. What's most striking about this entire discussion is how it's evolved from @3c26881dece6's original question into a comprehensive resource about child-in-care benefits misinformation. Seeing both SSDI and retirement examples with the same incorrect earnings limit information really drives home how widespread this problem is. The professional validation that this misinformation is "unfortunately very common" is both reassuring (we're not crazy for questioning it) and deeply concerning about the system's reliability. It's clear that families need to become their own advocates and come prepared with documentation to protect their rights. This thread should honestly be required reading for anyone dealing with complex family benefit situations. The combination of regulatory references, escalation strategies, and real-world examples creates a more reliable guide than what many people get from their local SSA offices. Thank you to everyone who's shared their knowledge - you're genuinely helping families navigate this broken system.

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