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How does SSDI affect Social Security survivor benefits if spouse died before reaching FRA?

My husband passed away in 2021 at just 52 years old. He had been receiving SSDI for about 3 years before his death due to a progressive illness. Now that I'm turning 63 next month, I'm trying to figure out my options for survivor benefits, but I'm completely confused about how his SSDI impacts what I'll receive. Does anyone know if my survivor benefit will be based on what he was actually receiving from SSDI at his death? Or would it be based on what he might have received at his full retirement age (which he never reached)? His monthly SSDI was around $2,240 when he died. Also, I'm still working part-time ($24,000/year) and plan to continue for a few more years. My own SS benefit at 63 would be about $1,800/month, but the survivor benefit seems higher. I've heard something about being able to take the lower benefit now and switch to the higher one later - is that true? If I wait until my FRA (67) to claim survivor benefits, would that amount be even more? The SSA website has me completely overwhelmed and their phone line disconnects me every time. I NEED to maximize my income since I'm living mostly on savings right now. Thanks for any help!

Taylor To

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Sry for your loss. My wife also passed b4 FRA. The survivors benefit is based on what your husband would have received at his FRA, not what he was getting on SSDI. But the SSA will do whats called a recomputation when they calculate it. i think they use 100% if youre at your FRA. if ur takin it early its reduced. Call them to run the numbers

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Oliver Cheng

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Thank you! Do you know if they'll count his SSDI years as zeros since he wasn't working, or do those years not affect the calculation? And did you have to provide anything special when you applied?

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Ella Cofer

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I'm sorry for your loss. Let me help clear up how survivor benefits work when a spouse was on SSDI: 1. Your survivor benefit will be based on 100% of what your husband was entitled to - which is his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). For SSDI recipients, this is essentially what they would have received at their FRA. 2. If you take survivor benefits before your FRA (67), they will be reduced based on your exact age. At 63, you'd receive approximately 79.6% of the full survivor benefit. 3. Yes, you can absolutely employ a strategy where you take one benefit type now and switch to another later. In your case, you could take your own reduced retirement benefit at 63 and then switch to the full survivor benefit at your FRA. 4. Since you're working, be aware of the earnings test if you claim any benefits before your FRA. For 2025, you can earn up to $22,320 without reduction, but $1 in benefits is withheld for every $2 you earn above that limit. I recommend getting a benefit verification letter from SSA that shows exactly what your husband's PIA was - this will tell you the base amount for your survivor benefit calculations.

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Oliver Cheng

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! This makes much more sense now. I didn't realize his SSDI payment was essentially his FRA amount. My earnings are just over the limit you mentioned, so I'd have some reduction. Do you think it makes more sense to just wait until my FRA to claim anything? Or take the reduced survivor benefit now? I'm so confused about which strategy would give me the most over my lifetime.

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Kevin Bell

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My mom went thru this exact thing!!! The SSA makes everything SO COMPLICATED on purpose I swear. She ended up taking her own benefit at 62 (even tho it was lower) and then switched to the survivor benefit when she hit her FRA. Worked out way better for her in the long run. But everyone's situation is different i guess

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Oliver Cheng

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Thanks for sharing your mom's experience. That's the strategy I'm leaning toward. Did she have any issues with the switch when she reached FRA? Was there paperwork or did it happen automatically?

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Savannah Glover

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The strategy of claiming your own reduced benefit now and switching to the full survivor benefit at your FRA is often optimal. However, since your own benefit at 63 is already $1,800, you need to carefully calculate the break-even point. Survivor benefits are NOT adjusted upward if you wait beyond your FRA (unlike retirement benefits which grow until 70). So there's no advantage to waiting past your FRA to claim the survivor benefit. I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about my own situation and kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I actually spoke with an agent, they ran calculations showing my different options which was incredibly helpful for making a decision.

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Felix Grigori

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does this claimyr thing actually work? i've been trying to get thru to social security for MONTHS about my disability review and keep getting disconnected!!!

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Savannah Glover

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Yes, it worked for me after weeks of frustration. I was connected to an actual SSA agent who could see my file and answer my specific questions. Saved me from having to take a day off work to go to my local office, which is 40 miles away and always packed.

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Felicity Bud

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THE SSA IS A NIGHTMARE TO DEAL WITH!!!! My husband died in 2019 and I'm STILL fighting with them about his back payments they owe me!!! Be prepared for them to make "mistakes" in THEIR favor and having to appeal EVERYTHING. They initially calculated my survivors benefit completely wrong and I had to get my congressman involved!!!!! DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and get all calculations IN WRITING!!!!!

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Max Reyes

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While there can certainly be frustrations with the process, most calculations are actually handled automatically by their system. The most common issues occur when there's missing information in the earnings record or when special provisions apply. It's always good to review your statements, but the vast majority of benefit calculations are accurate.

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Max Reyes

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Social Security survivor benefits have some unique rules when the deceased was on SSDI: 1. The survivor benefit is based on 100% of the deceased's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount they would receive at their full retirement age. Since your husband was receiving SSDI, his benefit was already calculated at the PIA rate. 2. If you claim before your FRA (67), the survivor benefit is reduced by a percentage for each month early. At 63, you'd receive approximately 79.6% of his PIA. 3. The years your husband was on SSDI before his death are not counted as zeros in his earnings record. SSA has special rules for disability cases that protect the benefit amount. 4. Your survivor benefit will receive cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) over time, just like regular Social Security benefits. 5. Yes, you can claim your own reduced retirement benefit now and then switch to the unreduced survivor benefit at your FRA. This strategy often maximizes lifetime benefits for many widows/widowers. I suggest getting a detailed benefit calculation from SSA before making your decision. Every case is unique based on earnings histories.

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Oliver Cheng

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Thank you so much for such clear information! This confirms what I was hoping. I think I'll take my own reduced benefit now and then switch to the survivor benefit at my FRA. One more question - when I switch at my FRA, do I need to contact them, or does it happen automatically?

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Max Reyes

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The switch is NOT automatic - you must contact SSA and file an application to switch benefits. I recommend contacting them 2-3 months before you reach your FRA to start the process. Make sure to specifically state that you want to switch from your retirement benefit to the survivor benefit. Keep documentation of when you contact them and who you speak with.

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Felix Grigori

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my dad died when i was 16 and my mom got survivors benefits for me until i graduated high school but she never took any for herself because she was working. now shes 61 and still working but struggling with bills. can she still claim his survivors benefits even tho its been 10 years since he died?? anyone know??

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Ella Cofer

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Yes, your mother can still claim survivor benefits based on your father's record! There's no time limit for filing. As long as she hasn't remarried before age 60, she can claim survivor benefits as early as age 60 (though reduced), or wait until her FRA for the full amount. She should contact SSA right away to explore her options.

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Oliver Cheng

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I feel much more confident now about my options. Based on your advice, I think my best strategy is to: 1. Take my own reduced retirement benefit at 63 (next month) 2. Continue working part-time, knowing some benefits might be withheld due to the earnings test 3. Switch to the full survivor benefit when I reach my FRA at 67 4. Make sure to contact SSA a few months before my FRA to initiate the switch I'm going to try to reach SSA this week to confirm the exact amount of my husband's PIA so I can better calculate what my survivor benefit will be at FRA. I'll also ask them to run different scenarios to make sure this is truly the best approach for my situation. This has been so confusing but you've all been extremely helpful. I really appreciate it!

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